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Thread: London Olympics - Security or Irony?

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    London Olympics - Security or Irony?


    It kind of begs the question, why is/was/was ever Afghanistan a problem?

    ....The London Olympics is a major terror target, and British officials have been working for years on a security program that is projected to cost the city over $896 million, at the same time it is cutting major services for the poor and elderly.

    ...More than 13,000 troops will be deployed as part of the security operation at next year's Olympic Games. Officials said that in all, the force will be larger than Britain's current military presence in Afghanistan.



    Missiles on my roof? Londoners push back on Olympics security - CSMonitor.com

    Anything appeared on your roof yet DP?

    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post

    Anything appeared on your roof yet DP?

    I thought it was a new fangled satellite dish they were installing... but strange they wanted to strap me to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post

    It kind of begs the question, why is/was/was ever Afghanistan a problem?
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    Afghanistan is only a problem to those foreigners who go there IMO.

    I read a lot of war history as a kid and one was about the First Afghan War (1839-42) and the loss of the British army as it retreated from Kabul. There were two more Anglo Afghan wars between then and 1919. The place has been a disaster area for any foreign army for centuries.

    But that did not stop the Russians .... and having grown up with the Vietnam war on the Tv and with older boys being drafted, it was not hard for me to think "now it will be my turn" when the Russians invaded Afghanistan on Xmas eve in '79 and the Western countries including Oz started their sabre rattling (remember the boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics?) ... nine years later the Russians had had enough of dying for nothing and left....

    Then we had another interlude and the Afghans went back to killing each other as they always do when there are no foreigner armies there for them to unite over and kill together...

    Then comes 2001 and here we go again for another decade or so of achieving nothing ..... and pretending it is something …. (“Stay the course” and all that other BS we hearfrom our Pollies …)

    As Mark Twain famously said "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme"

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    On Afganistan i think the answer is we send one polly on a rotating basis say 3 month tour and they go out on patrol with our lads.....That should fix it right quick............

    On terrorism thats an easy one to everytime there is an attack on a western target we just turn around and blow up a mosque and never let it be rebuilt....No prob might not work a little like shaking a bee hive...Maybe deport 1000 muslims for every bomb, should not take long....On another watch list.555555
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    I've often thought that they should publicly display the sewing of the remains of Suicide bombers bodies inside the guts of a Pig and burning it.

    See if that will get them into Paradise.

    Might make them think twice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wabbits View Post
    ....On terrorism thats an easy one to everytime there is an attack on a western target we just turn around and blow up a mosque and never let it be rebuilt....No prob might not work a little like shaking a bee hive...Maybe deport 1000 muslims for every bomb, should not take long....On another watch list.555555
    Our local Muslims are not the problem - never have been - and never really will be IMHO - it is all the imports / external nutters ... trying to influence a handful of vulnerable ones here ...

    I remember the story years back of how an external call for a Jihad that would echo across the Western world was met by a comment from the then Mufti here that the only thing that would echo across Australia would be his voice in the nearest Police station shouting the names of anyone he found to be involved.

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    Look lads, you can p*** on the Taliban, just dont take any photos!
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Watch this documentary series and you begin to see what is making the Muslim world so mad...



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    BBC News - Sonic weapon; deployed in London during Olympics

    The Ministry of Defence has confirmed a device which can be used as a "sonic weapon" will be deployed in London during the Olympics.

    The American-made Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) can be used to send verbal warnings over a long distance or emit a beam of pain-inducing tones.
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    The Thais have one and used it on Mrs M's former workmates during the protests that followed the factory's winding down a few years ago...

    Not a great video but you get the idea ...

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    ^How's it gonna stop terrorists? Sounds like it will only stop innocent protests....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    ^How's it gonna stop terrorists? Sounds like it will only stop innocent protests....
    Agreed. Waste of time and money.

    Putting my ex-coppers hat on, I think it is a provovative device that would do more harm than good at a protest - likely to turn an angry group into a violent one if used on them. If someone starts hurting you I think the natural human emotion is to hurt them back to make them stop.

    As per the video it was effective against a large group of women only... when used at a later protest (the Red shirts, I think) ... the crowd turned on the operators (earplugs or sticking your fingers in your ears renders it ineffective), took control of the device and turned it on the Police lines.

    So I think it is useless in practice, it cannot defend itself because it does not hurt people enough to do so and if behind the police lines then all the police in front need ear protection which limits their ability to communicate and/or makes them vulnerable as all the protesters need do is pull off their ear protection in the melee.

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    ^Maybe they are more worried about street riots from the citizens than terrorist attacks.... 555

    Sometimes you do wonder if the government actually wants public disorder... so they are seen to be doing something about it, when they attempt to control it. Look at last year's riots. Although the government was slow to react... it did make 99% of the public pro-order (and hence pro-government) and anti-rioters... because they had a common enemy.
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    So what is the point of sending soldiers and weapons to kill people in far off lands on the pretext that otherwise they will travel to our contry and kill us, when we still need thousands of soldiers, a warship moored in the Thames, four fighter jets on standby, anti aircraft missiles, helicopter gunships, snipers the entire constabulary, and ten thousand video cameras for a two week sporting event originally designed to encourage the brotherhood of man among amateurs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    So what is the point of sending soldiers and weapons to kill people in far off lands on the pretext that otherwise they will travel to our contry and kill us, when we still need thousands of soldiers, a warship moored in the Thames, four fighter jets on standby, anti aircraft missiles, helicopter gunships, snipers the entire constabulary, and ten thousand video cameras for a two week sporting event originally designed to encourage the brotherhood of man among amateurs?
    I refer you to this previous post...

    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    Controlling the masses... through fear...



    Always two sides to every story...
    Now that religion is losing its influence in controlling the masses... they need another tool... they had the cold war for a while... and now Terrorism has arrived at a convenient time.
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    BBC News - London 2012: Spelling error in torchbearer's Olympic tattoo



    A woman who got a new tattoo to celebrate her role in the Olympic torch relay was shocked to discover it had been spelt incorrectly.

    Jerri Peterson, from Atlanta in the US, carried the torch through Derby on 30 June after being nominated by the hotel chain she worked for.

    Before coming to England, she decided to spend $10 (£6.50) on a tattoo to mark the occasion.

    Only later did the 54-year-old realise it featured the mis-spelling "Oylmpic".

    Mrs Peterson was one of 70 international employees selected by her firm to take part in the relay as a thank you for her years of charity work.
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