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    Scottish Independence

    So the Scots get to vote in a referendum regarding independence on the 18th.... Yes or No...
    Coming from a family with deep roots in Aberdeen, I quite like the idea. But will it work, can Scotland survive and function independently from the rest of the UK?

    Or would it just be symbolic?

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    I really hope they don't ,we are better together, pound will crash and there will be financial uncertainty for years to come , stupid idea
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    North Sea oil...they will survive.
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    I've watched Braveheart several times... So I'm an expert.

    Will the king be throwing his little gay sons lover out the window? Is so, I'm cool with him.55
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    I've seen more of this on tv than i ever expected to . . . watching Iran's English Islam news channel PressTV

    They support Scotland breaking away, on basis a kick in the teeth for those evil English and their Queen who support the USA . . .

    apart from the politics, they've also shown some short documentaries on Scotland's history, interesting to me having never been there but having a nephew born/still there (Edinburgh)

    If Scotland becomes independent, it will be despite the efforts of almost the entire UK establishment. It will be because social media has defeated the corporate media.
    It will be a victory for citizens over the Westminster machine, for shoes over helicopters.
    It will show that a sufficiently inspiring idea can cut through bribes and blackmail, through threats and fear-mongering.
    That hope, marginalized at first, can spread across a nation, defying all attempts to suppress it.
    That you can be hated by the Daily Mail and still have a chance of winning.

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    By contrast I think it's a good idea - and I'm English!

    There is a substantial minority (note not the majority) of Scots who have an antipathy to the English and feel, in an automatic way, that Scotland would be better off by itself. There were certainly a number of decisions taken (particularly in the 80s) which impacted very severely on Scotland and Scottish unemployment (think ship building, coal mining, steel production) but much (but not all) of this reflected non cost competitive industries.

    I'm English and I can't pretend that I think it is right. However I do understand it and if I had not been born in God's own country (England!) I might feel the same way.

    It will never change until the Scots have the chance to go their own way. It's a bit like a adolescent teenager deciding to move out of the house. It's the wrong decision but it's something s/he has to go through.

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    if successful, can they make a canal as a divider?

    Charge their own entry/exit fees for Visas?

    Will England get their own referendum next?
    1. Vote Wales out of UK
    2. Vote Northern Ireland out of UK
    3. All of the above
    4. None of the above
    5. Become part of the ISIL Caliphate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stillearly View Post
    I really hope they don't ,we are better together, pound will crash and there will be financial uncertainty for years to come , stupid idea
    I agree... it may work in the long run, but for the next few years will likely throw both economies into deep recession...
    My only experience was in a pie making factory managing the gravy team


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    Are the Welsh independent yet? If not they will be next.
    Then the flag will change to the George Cross and nobody will even notice.
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    Are the Welsh independent yet? If not they will be next.
    Then the flag will change to the George Cross and nobody will even notice.
    The Welsh aren't that motivated. 55
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    But they should be worried....555

    Ye Olde English Lawe...


    ....You can shoot a Welsh person all day on a Sunday, with a longbow in the Cathedral Close, Hereford.

    It is no more relaxing for the Welsh if they make another expedition just across the English border, to Chester.

    There, an ancient law says Welsh people can be shot with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight.

    "We wouldn't expect people to worry too much about most of these laws,"

    "Though any Welsh person visiting Hereford or Chester may want to keep their wits about them on Sunday!"




    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    If they gain Independance, and I hope they do. It's goodbye to the Labour party in England. Scotland votes kept them going whilst the majority of England is Conservative. Is this the end of Nuclear free Councils and funding for Gay Lesbian workshops on workers rights.
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    the only good reason they don't vote YES is - Stockholm syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But the real rabbit out of the hat will be a whole Ireland!!!

    I hope Celtic peoples all over this great world, support our Scottish family to say YES!!!!

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoi...nd-285590.html

    Freedom my Sisters and Brother!

    Decentralisation of power is a good thing for all Humans, decisions made outside of an educated majority consensus of many good countries isn't good for this world.......only the rich!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGC View Post
    If they gain Independance, and I hope they do. It's goodbye to the Labour party in England. Scotland votes kept them going whilst the majority of England is Conservative. Is this the end of Nuclear free Councils and funding for Gay Lesbian workshops on workers rights.
    You guy's are sick of getting Glassed in Glasgow?? ohhhyabastard!!!!

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    They going to have to spend there own money....a scot once bought me a drink...but I think it was a mistake 5555...
    will the poms take away the pound...interesting times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    But they should be worried....555

    Ye Olde English Lawe...


    ....You can shoot a Welsh person all day on a Sunday, with a longbow in the Cathedral Close, Hereford.

    It is no more relaxing for the Welsh if they make another expedition just across the English border, to Chester.

    There, an ancient law says Welsh people can be shot with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight.

    "We wouldn't expect people to worry too much about most of these laws,"

    "Though any Welsh person visiting Hereford or Chester may want to keep their wits about them on Sunday!"




    Is it an English weapon the longbow? I thought it was Welsh......
    English longbow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://seducedbyhistory.blogspot.com...urt-their.html

    or lord nelson???
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Geo...,_10th_Baronet
    and where was the iron duke born again????
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_..._of_Wellington


    The only real weapon English have is a forked tongue and fiat currency. here's their top manhood- Homepage muppet of this guy- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_R...ron_Rothschild

    seems it's the pommies that stand to lose the most, I pray they do lose~! for all those people that have been robbed before!
    Last edited by OzzyDamo; 10th September 2014 at 22:43.

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    Does this mean all the expat Scottish journalists and news reporters that seem to now occupy every corner of the world will now all go home....555
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    I had a great conversation with Gordon, an expat Scot. He's a "Nay", but the discussion centred around Govt Depts. Already the Scots have there own education and health. The British Armed Forces will be split, giving a third to Scotland. The Nuclear Submarine bases will need to be moved. The North Sea oil fields will be Scottish. Not good for GB.

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