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    Pakistan school siege over, say police; more than 120 killed

    Some reports now saying up to 136. 6 gunmen killed so far.

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    Army spokesman Asim Bajwal reiterates that the Taliban made no demands: “they started killing children as soon as they entered the school.”

    Bajwal says that Pakistan’s army will “resolutely identify all sympathizers and facilitators of the terrorists, and will hunt them down finish them all until they are killed.”

    Pakistan’s army chief, General Raheel Sharif, says “terrorists have attacked the heart of our country.”

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    Yes a terrible thing, and so prevalent in that part of the world.

    We are all in a tiz here over the Sydney siege where 2 innocent were killed. God help us if we ever have this sort of thing.
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    Peshawar school attack: Backlash against Pakistan Taliban

    Tuesday's school attack in Peshawar is seen by many as the worst in Pakistan's history of militant violence.

    Over more than a decade the country has faced many attacks causing deaths that run into three figures, but never before have the attackers mowed down so many children.

    The sense of shock in Pakistan is unprecedented.

    Many are now wondering whether the country will finally lose patience with militants who have killed thousands over the years.

    In June the Pakistani army launched a ground offensive to clear North Waziristan tribal region, the largest sanctuary carved out by militants in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region.

    Since losing their sanctuary the militants have been dispersed, many of them have been moving into the Khyber region, which is in the provincial capital Peshawar's backyard.

    There, too, the militants are under pressure, with the military launching another operation in Khyber just last month.

    The groups that had been fighting under the banner of the Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) have split up into various factions.

    Some of them who had carved out sanctuaries in north-eastern Afghanistan and had remained secure until now have recently come under attack amid growing signs of improvement in Pakistan's relations with the US and Afghanistan.

    'Intelligence-led operations'
    Earlier this month the Pakistani army chief undertook a week-long visit to the US, and the US Congress extended a facility to fund Pakistani military operations against militants by a year.

    This came apparently after assurances that Pakistan would give up a policy - which it has long denied - of protecting some militant groups considered essential for its own strategic aims in the region.

    In recent weeks, the army spokesman in Rawalpindi has been releasing statements claiming attacks on hideouts of the Haqqani network, seen as a long-time militant ally of the Pakistani state, although there has never been independent confirmation of this.

    Within the country, what the authorities call "intelligence-led operations" have brought the capture and killing of a number of suspected militants from cells in Karachi, the southern parts of Punjab province, and in parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, of which Peshawar is the capital.

    In recent months, several dead bodies have been recovered by police in KP province which militants claim to be those of their fighters. They claim these fighters were captured by security forces and killed extra-judicially.

    So while security around military and civilian government targets has been beefed up, the militants have been coming under increased pressure.

    Peshawar has always been an easy target for militants because it is surrounded on three sides by the semi-autonomous tribal areas - where militants have maintained bases.

    The Army Public School they attacked in Peshawar was not only a soft target, but also symbolically important as it is run by the army and has mostly children of service personnel as its students.

    So is the assault a desperate attempt at a comeback by militants who are under threat?

    It may well be, but it has shaken the nation, and may well spark noisier demands for the military to stop protecting its favourites among the

    BBC News - Peshawar school attack: Backlash against Pakistan Taliban

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    amzing brutality......so sad to attack defenseless children in whatever name you claim.

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    The attack on a school in the Pakistani city of Peshawar might be the worst in the country’s history, but human rights groups say it is part of an ongoing trend that has seen more than 1,000 schools targeted since 2009.
    “This is a particularly horrific case, in which more than 130 school children lost their lives, but it happens in a smaller scale all too often,” said Diya Nijhowne, director of the Global Coalition to Protect Education from Attack.
    At least 130 people were killed on Tuesday, including more than 100 under the age of 16, as they studied in the army public school in Peshawar. The Pakistani Taliban (TKK) took credit for the attack, saying six gunman scaled the walls of the school just after 10 a.m. local time.
    A Taliban spokesman told AFP that the attack was “just the trailer”.

    Muhammad Khorasani said his group took credit for the attack, and warned that more was soon to come.

    “They [military] was always wrong about our capabilities,” said Korasani. “We are still able to carry out major attacks. This was just the trailer.”
    He claimed that the gunmen sent to storm the school were under orders to “shoot the older students but not the children.”

    nternational aid groups, including Human Rights Watch and the International Crisis Group (ICG), report that at least 1,000 schools have been attacked by the Taliban in Pakistan since 2009, though they note the number could be much higher.

    “Any schools, but particularly girls’ schools, are considered soft targets to further the militants’ ultra-orthodox agenda,” the ICG said in a report earlier this year. “The schools have become a target because they, “promote Western decadence and un-Islamic teachings.”

    Malala Yousafzai, the Nobel Prize-winner who has continued to campaign for girls education despite after being shot in the head by the Taliban, is perhaps the most famous case of a school attack in Pakistan. When the Taliban gained control in 2007 of the Swat Valley where Yousafzai lived, it banned girls’ education past the fourth grade. Between 2007 and the attack on Yousafzai in October 2012, 119 girls schools in the Swat Valley were attacked.

    Nijhowne said that the schools are often state-run, which makes them an easier target for Taliban militants looking to destabilize the government.
    “Schools are often seen as an instrument of the state,” she said. “They are government-run schools so the teachers within them are seen as government employees. It’s an easy way to attack the state rather than a military installation.”

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    Absolutely unbelievable....Just cant get my head around this sort of violence to anyone let alone innocent children.

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    "....Pakistan’s army will “resolutely identify all sympathizers and facilitators of the terrorists, and will hunt them down finish them all until they are killed..”

    You can't give a stronger response than that. I wish them luck with it.

    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Yeah from the guys who hid Bin Laden for 10 years

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    How mentally fucked up do you have to be, to go into a school as a grown adult, and start shooting innocent children dead in the name of your cause ....

    Put the petrified kid in your sights, and pull the trigger and which them spatter everywhere

    I will tell you how fucked you would have to be ... TOTALLY FUCKED UP !! ....
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    The thing has become idealistic...apparently...

    Boko Haram is an Islamist group that has been active in Nigeria since 2009. The name of the group means "Western" or "non-Islamic" education is a sin. The group is active in the north of Nigeria, and wants to impose Islamic law as the only law in Nigeria.

    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydney View Post
    How mentally fucked up do you have to be, to go into a school as a grown adult, and start shooting innocent children dead in the name of your cause ....

    Put the petrified kid in your sights, and pull the trigger and which them spatter everywhere

    I will tell you how fucked you would have to be ... TOTALLY FUCKED UP !! ....
    About as fucked up as sending innocent men, women and children to their deaths in the gas chambers... Indoctrination will unfortunately do that to people.
    This is not always a nice world that we live in unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteGill View Post
    About as fucked up as sending innocent men, women and children to their deaths in the gas chambers... Indoctrination will unfortunately do that to people.
    This is not always a nice world that we live in unfortunately.
    Yeah but that was 70 years ago .... that idea is that we are meant to learn a bit as we go along..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydney View Post
    Yeah but that was 70 years ago .... that idea is that we are meant to learn a bit as we go along..
    That was the idea... But 70 years is not a lot of time in the history of mankind. The more that I see and read about cults, religious zealots and extremist groups, the more I think that we have not moved on all that much.
    Luckily most of us are not subject to the same level of indoctrination and intimidation to follow.

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    Pol pot and the Khmer Rouge were hell bent on a similar kind of killing spree in the 1970's.
    Their ideology was formed from Marxist Maoist communist ideals learned in the early twentieth century.
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydney View Post
    Yeah but that was 70 years ago .... that idea is that we are meant to learn a bit as we go along..
    Was only 15 to 20 years ago in Yugoslavia... and will probably happen again... some on this forum are probably thinking they'd like Muslims wiped from the planet right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    some on this forum are probably thinking they'd like Muslims wiped from the planet right now...
    very extreme DP.

    they don't mix well with infidels and should have their own place/s where they can....do what they do without the distractions.
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    Allahu Akbar.....how the fark is that ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo Uaon View Post
    very extreme DP.

    they don't mix well with infidels and should have their own place/s where they can....do what they do without the distractions.
    Most Muslims I associate with mix extremely well. I am sitting next to one right now as I type... great guy. The distinction is between the extremists and normal Muslim population. I am just suggesting how one nutter can turn normal people into angry feed them to the pigs type people. We quite often see normal Muslims targeted by non-Muslims after events like this... at least here in the UK. Mosques being torched and normal Muslims attacked in the street. That is why the over the top outrage at anything Islamic, (Not just extremists) which has thankfully calmed down on here, was not a pleasant thing to see.
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