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    Labour-hire

    It seems to becoming more and more prevalent these days companys outsourcing to labourhire / recruitment agency's
    i can understand it for really short-term positions or really specialist jobs where the suitable candidates are hard to find
    but it seems more like employers are looking to labour hire as an easy way to hire/fire with no responsibility- as usual its the working man/woman the gets the short end of the stick
    what ever happened to hiring your own people even be it on trial etc ?

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    The Seismic (oil exploration) company I do a lot of work for as a 3rd party contractor is laying off a lot of employees (as they all are) and re-hiring a lot as contractors. Its turns out to be cheaper for them, and the guys coming back on contract are making a better rate. Sometimes a win-win, but they are subject to being let go without notice.
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    I think the recruitment agencies mostly just shortlist a number of candidates, and the company then has to do their own interviewing and hiring from that list. I haven't heard of them actually hiring on behalf of a company here.
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    I know some of the Government departments here in Perth WA are using labor hire staff to fill what were once full-time government positions - some of these "temporary" appointments have gone on for well over a year now.

    The State Government puts a freeze on the number of permanent positions - so the various departments go to labor hire firms who "place" mostly young people in these Government jobs and pay them at rates that are lower per hour and have none of the benefits of full time Government employment - no job security, no accrual of sick leave, annual leave and long service entitlements.

    Frankly, taken as a whole, I think it would suck to be a young worker now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    I think the recruitment agencies mostly just shortlist a number of candidates, and the company then has to do their own interviewing and hiring from that list. I haven't heard of them actually hiring on behalf of a company here.
    Yes, basically it is an economic decision, companies have worked out that job interviews take a lot of time and distract workers from doing what they are employed to do.

    Toll transport have a good setup, they have their own employment company and it processes all their needs, but it also works in the open market.
    So when Toll Mackay needs some staff Toll Personel are given the job to find them, but when they are not chasing for Toll they are working and paid by other businesses, even the local car yard etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minder View Post
    I know some of the Government departments here in Perth WA are using labor hire staff to fill what were once full-time government positions - some of these "temporary" appointments have gone on for well over a year now.

    The State Government puts a freeze on the number of permanent positions - so the various departments go to labor hire firms who "place" mostly young people in these Government jobs and pay them at rates that are lower per hour and have none of the benefits of full time Government employment - no job security, no accrual of sick leave, annual leave and long service entitlements.

    Frankly, taken as a whole, I think it would suck to be a young worker now.

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    Yes Minder and one of the big problems is these temps have no hope of getting any loans. No mortgage and even car loans are hard to get.

    I have had people that have worked as part time or casual for 10 yrs in the same job, doing 40 plus hrs, but the banks and mortgage insures won't touch them.
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    This abrogation of responsibility to employees has obviously gone too far.
    A "Job" today means part time or casual, usually arranged through a third party like a Labour hire firm which will at least make sure insurance and super are paid. But what about those who have been employed as "Casual" for years on end?
    The law needs to be changed to limit casual appointments to one year and then compulsorily replaced with an EBA contract with all the usual permanancy benefits. Oh yeah and anyone who sacks anyone without reason within three months of the limit should be made to treat the employee as permanent.

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    i personally think that unions have a lot to answer for in regards to how it all works these days.
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