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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Fuck me, London again. These poor people can't get a break.
    It was a building built for lower income? Maybe it was started by a mosquito...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slampay View Post
    It was a building built for lower income? Maybe it was started by a mosquito...
    Few hundred meters away from Notting Hill, can't imagine that being cheap..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RakThai View Post
    Few hundred meters away from Notting Hill, can't imagine that being cheap..
    It was social housing , there are some very rich areas close to the poorer ones

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    17 confirmed dead so far, going to be a lot, lot more

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    And started by a fridge. Don't hear about fridges as fire starters very often...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    And started by a fridge. Don't hear about fridges as fire starters very often...
    ISIS Fridge that had been radicalized .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    And started by a fridge. Don't hear about fridges as fire starters very often...
    I've never heard of a fire started by a refrigerator, but if you have faulty wiring and an appliance that takes too big a draw, then maybe problems can occur. But, proper circuit breakers usually take care of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    And started by a fridge. Don't hear about fridges as fire starters very often...
    About one a week in London according to some reports. Older non inverter models, have a heavy duty capacitor start compressor and it's the capacitor which can ignite flammable material in back of fridge.

    The Sun reports death toll likely to be in the 100's with many not formally identified.
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    To the best of my knowledge we have had 2 similar instances here in Aust.

    1st one was in Redfern Sydney, a refurbished low income housing building.

    The cladding was, as someone else said, a cheap Chinese material that didn't meet Aust. standards.

    A more recent one was in Melbourne, i can't remember all the details I think it was a non housing commission block, a normal owners building and had the same problem.

    Fortunately in Aust. there are high building standards and buildings over a certain height have to have water towers on the roof and the firies can set these off to flood the outside walls of the building in these sort of cases.

    Very sad to see RIP all those lost.

    My workmate made a valid point a couple of days ago.....they published a list of all the other buildings with this cladding and i think he said there was 123?? Anyhow his point was they are a simple target for ISSIS, simple Molotov cocktail and potential 100's of dead.

    I hope they can strip the material and replace it quickly.
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    Very sad about the loss of lives. Sigh... in the picture the building looks like a neat stack of firewood.

    I think the danger is in having so many people living in such condition. An inherent danger of living in an apartment building. Of the hundreds of people, any one of them can start a fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGrass View Post
    Very sad about the loss of lives. Sigh... in the picture the building looks like a neat stack of firewood.

    I think the danger is in having so many people living in such condition. An inherent danger of living in an apartment building. Of the hundreds of people, any one of them can start a fire.
    Exactly my thoughts. Years ago my parents had a friend over to our home who slept on our sofa after a house party. The guy was a smoker and fell asleep and set the sofa on fire. Luckily, our dog smelled the smoke and woke us all up. The guy later did the same at his own home and he died of smoke inhalation in the subsequent fire.

    Now multiply that by a thousand people living in a fire box of a huge hotel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Forbes View Post
    Exactly my thoughts. Years ago my parents had a friend over to our home who slept on our sofa after a house party. The guy was a smoker and fell asleep and set the sofa on fire. Luckily, our dog smelled the smoke and woke us all up. The guy later did the same at his own home and he died of smoke inhalation in the subsequent fire.

    Now multiply that by a thousand people living in a fire box of a huge hotel.
    Hotels are scary... once I enter, do I have the survival skill to make it out alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGrass View Post
    Hotels are scary... once I enter, do I have the survival skill to make it out alive?
    That is where I go into my Thai psyche and leave it up to "luck"... hopefully good luck. You can up the odds by your own personal behavior, but you don't have control over others. I don't let myself worry over things I have no control over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGrass View Post
    Hotels are scary... once I enter, do I have the survival skill to make it out alive?
    depends on if you grab something from the fish bowl when you check in or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo Uaon View Post
    depends on if you grab something from the fish bowl when you check in or not
    Or accidentally pickup from the wrong soi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Or accidentally pickup from the wrong soi.
    With those two comments this topic has made a sharp left turn.... 55555

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    Grenfell fire: Italian couple transformed into fairy tale heroes - BBC News

    Grenfell fire: Italian couple transformed into fairy tale heroes

    Marco and Gloria, an Italian couple in their 20s, moved to London to find work as architects. Only a few months later, they died in the Grenfell Tower fire.
    Marco's family and friends have written a children's book turning what happened into a fairy tale - but unlike real life, the story has a happy ending.

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