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    Dad goes to LOS.

    Long but worth a look IMO.



    What's your thoughts?

    If he does not have money we not be together. My family come first!
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    Oh dear...

    I know I could never live like that. I could only marry someone who was not only attracted to me... but in love with me... which she obviously isn't. A marriage of convenience? Bugger that.

    I wonder if he knows how she really thinks of him? If so... bizarre.... if not... then he is blind...
    He looks to me (and the son can see it) that the father needs someone to need him... even if it's only for his money... he seems to have a huge insecurity complex... probably encouraged by his childhood problems.

    The son seems to have a better grip of life than his dad... though it wouldn't be hard as his dad doesn't seem too bright.

    Dunno what others think... but you can see him being a "dead farang" soon.... once her exploitation has run it's course...
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    Wow, What DP said.....

    I thought she was going to castrate the son.I wonder if he knew how close he was then.....

    How do you get around the crying as an expression of emotion. Once again 2 rules Ok for them but not Ok for their farang? It has raised a heap of questions I'd rather not be thinking about...

    I am still digesting it, brutally honest TG. He has to live by thier rules. Like a caged monkey?

    Glad S doesn't have any Tattoos.
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    My prognosis on 25 minutes of footage.

    Nothing really untoward here from many many things you read on the Internet about TG relationships, that they are looking for security foremost, especially if the Man is at least 15 years older, does not mean that they don't have feelings for the man, and these feelings will grow, but really what is the point of taking up with a bloke who is broke, yes they are looking for security and some for their family too as part of the package.

    She certainly was not only in the Bargame for a week or so before she met him (yes Spot tatts a huge giveaway), and she comes across with a hard edge, but she tells her side brutally honest, she could have easily just lied to the camera.

    The Dad seems like a bloke a lot older than his age suggests, maybe a bit of a drinker, but surely he knows the score.

    Yes two different set of rules, I have seen that and read about that happening, but in this case just some emotion on both parts, noticed that when the old man does get emotional, pretty sure he had hit the piss pretty hard, and she had had a few two.

    Not sure the Son was near castration though, it was pissed emotions in play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arliss Michaels View Post
    My prognosis on 25 minutes of footage.

    Nothing really untoward here from many many things you read on the Internet about TG relationships, that they are looking for security foremost, especially if the Man is at least 15 years older, does not mean that they don't have feelings for the man, and these feelings will grow, but really what is the point of taking up with a bloke who is broke, yes they are looking for security and some for their family too as part of the package.
    I agree it's common. But what a way to live your life... if I ever end up like that, I give JC permission now to take me out... for my own good... 555
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    I agree it's common. But what a way to live your life... if I ever end up like that, I give JC permission now to take me out... for my own good... 555
    But that would spoil all the fun for the wife 555
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    I got the feeling that having been together for three years, for her this (The Marriage, Sin Sot, big expensive wedding ceremony) was the end of a mission to do the best for her family. And it certainly was mission accomplished in every respect. After this I expect he will be put out to pasture. I don't blame her as I think she has been honest about her true feelings. I am fairly amazed about how little it takes to make him happy...well 51% happy at any rate.
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    Have only watched the first half...

    He is a sad case...by the looks of it, an alcoholic that doesn't want to be responsible or accountable for anything. Anyone that judges happiness as being happy more than 50% of the time needs help.

    Whilst I find her coldness totally unappealing, at least she is straight about how she feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamTanMot View Post

    Whilst I find her coldness totally unappealing, at least she is straight about how she feels.
    I agree. Nothing against her really at all. She is just making the most out of an opportunity.
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    caveat emptor

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacwaan View Post
    caveat emptor
    Who is doing the buying though... 555

    She has to put up with him for a number of years until she gets what she wants...
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    I was talking to Klan last night, her sister is coming over here next month and we are all excited. Beechworth Isaan Mafia will then be 5 TGs and some visitors.

    Klan's sister story reminds me of what may have happenned to Singhma (No offence Ron), and perhaps the poor silly Pommie bloke on the video. Sister was happily married to very good Thai man, but he gets sick and can no longer work. American has been chasing sister for 2 years, family debts, increasing medical costs for her husband. What does she do? Talks to husband and he agrees they get divorced and he stays in house. Sister marries rich Yank and can afford to take care of ex husband and family and does so.

    What are the implications for any off us, if ours do not truly love us? Waht happens when some super rich dude comes along and decides he likes your missus?

    I must admit that Klan and the other Isaan girls here work harder and longer than 2 blokes and have stuck by thier men, they are not looking for a free ride. S is always asking Klan on the phone about how much work she can get when she moves down here. S never asked for money until I read about keeping records etc and showing immigration I could support her and Mook and started sending her some to create a paper trail, 555 now I am paying off our Village house - Shed on land 555

    Oh dear, thanks for that JTM talk about throwing the cat amongst the pdgeons..............
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    I don't think that Yai and all the other "Hill people" family seen in the video will be micro analyzing all this too much. If the old mans money runs out anytime soon, Chiang Mai isn't so far away.
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    My take on it.

    Dad suffering from a belief of very little self-worth. Only 51% is enough to sway him into this relationship with most of his self-worth (happiness) is purely coming from his ability to financially take care of this family.

    What he gets in return is acceptance into the family group and his CM drinking buddies that most likely are in the same boat as him.

    Mee has obviously has spent a lot of time working around farangs and is quiet skillful at it. I think she genuinely cares for him in her own way. But I know what my little treasures reaction would be to telling her she will be fcuked. Being drunk and interfering between families regardless. It would not be nice.

    Dad does not have too many years left in him with his current lifestyle. If he still has remaining funds, pensions I would not be surprised if they have another child together to secure the residuals.

    I believe there are thousands of expats in the same boat as this.

    Drinking, drugs, mongering or being the white night to a poor family are all just short term Band-Aids or highs for low self-worth.
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    I think I saw the video in a different light, the Thai element was very minor in my eyes.... Mee and his fathers relationship is a dime a dozen across Thailand, it's a relationship of a mutual understanding.
    What I saw was a dysfunctional Father-Son relationship, and one that the son was trying to seek answers about.... It seems that his father is or has had the stereotypical mid-life crisis, left the wife and probably on some advice of one of his geezer mates has high tailed it to LOS to solve the riddle on happiness. He clearly has some issues about his ability or lack of ability to be a good father and I felt that he was quite bitter with himself because of it. He was right in saying that he had broke the family unit when he left, and I dont think this was just due to him leaving his wife more the fact his obviously low self-esteem.

    He might see himself as the king of his domain looking through his beer goggles but Mee has the numbers for support.... The marriage has only one destiny!
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    ^I agree with both of your (Jonty and PBB). Both coming at it from different perspectives... but both probably not far off the mark...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spot View Post
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    What are the implications for any off us, if ours do not truly love us? Waht happens when some super rich dude comes along and decides he likes your missus?
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    Probably nothing, most will stay with the devil they know.

    If you are taking care of the family well enough she will stay put - if not she will look for a better long term option. Love alone will not put rice on the table.

    I told you at the outset of your journey to consider that Thai women view relationships the same way we farangs view our careers.

    Too many farangs think it is all about "love" only when it is really about "survival" with love in second place - people in the West these days have forgotten what a strong motivation "poverty" can be - frankly IMHO too many have forgotten what poverty is altogether.

    I defy anyone to really understand the motivations of a TG like the one in this video unless they have some understanding of what having NOTHING really means.

    Rant over and out.

    Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minder View Post
    Too many farangs think it is all about "love" only when it is really about "survival" with love in second place - people in the West these days have forgotten what a strong motivation "poverty" can be - frankly IMHO too many have forgotten what poverty is altogether.

    I defy anyone to really understand the motivations of a TG like the one in this video unless they have some understanding of what having NOTHING really means.

    Rant over and out.

    Enjoy.
    I agree you are correct. Hence why I will always have an issue with it... not for me... though I think there is still a small percentage who will put love first... if not... then so be it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minder View Post
    Probably nothing, most will stay with the devil they know.

    If you are taking care of the family well enough she will stay put - if not she will look for a better long term option. Love alone will not put rice on the table.

    I told you at the outset of your journey to consider that Thai women view relationships the same way we farangs view our careers.

    Too many farangs think it is all about "love" only when it is really about "survival" with love in second place - people in the West these days have forgotten what a strong motivation "poverty" can be - frankly IMHO too many have forgotten what poverty is altogether.

    I defy anyone to really understand the motivations of a TG like the one in this video unless they have some understanding of what having NOTHING really means.

    Rant over and out.

    Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distantpeak View Post
    I agree you are correct. Hence why I will always have an issue with it... not for me... though I think there is still a small percentage who will put love first... if not... then so be it...
    The issue/worry I have is the risk that there won't be honesty about true feelings, concerns or misunderstandings, as this is where the "love" aspect can break down. I have always tried to just understand, rather than yap-yap about things. Very early on, there was some reluctance to share true feelings, yet this has evapourated quickly as my response has been support and understanding (thanks to a TDing education...555). We both recognise that this has strengthened our relationship, which has encouraged greater openess.
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