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Thread: International travel after receiving Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309)

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    International travel after receiving Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309)

    I am looking for some insights into international travel requirements following the receipt of the Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309), and thus prior to permanent Partner visa (subclass 100).

    For example, if a TG had a 309, can they apply to visit the US as a tourist via an ESTA or some similar quick process. Essentially, does having a 309 get them treated similarly to an Australian citizen.

    I suppose, the same questions once a 100 is granted, thus Australian resident but not necessarily a citizen.
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    Obviously I wouldn't know Australia but I can tell you our experience.

    I don't believe you are married? And I think she just comes for visits in Australia? Doesn't live there permanently?

    I can't remember the time frame but Ao was coming here on 6months tourist visas and we applied for a US tourist visa and she got denied.

    Then, less than maybe 2 years later she was living in Canada permanently and on a work permit and she got granted a 10 year visitors visa.

    So if you guys aren't married and she doesn't live in Australia full time I don't think she'd be treated same as an Aussie citizen.

    Also.....even though we applied in Vancouver, they say that it is beneficial for the applicant to apply in the embassy in her country of citizenship.

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    On a 12 month multi-entry currently, and expect a 309 to be approved mid-year (de-facto version). Under a 309, this would probably be equivalent or closer to Ao's situation when she got 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    On a 12 month multi-entry currently, and expect a 309 to be approved mid-year (de-facto version). Under a 309, this would probably be equivalent or closer to Ao's situation when she got 10 years.
    But we were married
    I don't think she would have gotten it if we weren't married.

    But Vancouver is notorious for giving 10 years or denying it.
    I think just because Canada borders the US.

    So, honestly.....they might look at your situation entirely different and judge it as a one off holiday.

    I think your recent travel and length of stay in US may help

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    Australian Permanent Residency has no bearing on entry or visa requirements to a third country, except New Zealand.

    Although applying for the visas from Australia with the fact that you are PR, seems to make the process easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven_ View Post
    Australian Permanent Residency has no bearing on entry or visa requirements to a third country, except New Zealand.

    Although applying for the visas from Australia with the fact that you are PR, seems to make the process easier.
    Can you expand on the NZ bit? Does it differentiate between a 309 and 100?
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    The 309 visa is a temporary visa, so means pretty much nothing outside what it grants you in Australia. (IMO)

    The 100. Is permanent residency.

    As an Australia permanent resident, you can travel, live and work in New Zealand etc the same an Australian citizen. (Or very close to it)

    After 5 years as PR, you require a resident return visa to re-enter Australia. Which is valid for 5 years.

    Not living in Australia, not married to you will IMO work against any advantage you may gain from the 309 visa in a visa application (to a third country) due to it only being a temporary visa. But once you have the PR it (the PR) will work in your favour.
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    The answer is simple. If she has a Thai passport, she can go anywhere else in the world that she is able to obtain a visa for, as a Thai passport holder.
    This won't change unless/until she is able to get a passport from another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post

    The answer is simple. If she has a Thai passport, she can go anywhere else in the world that she is able to obtain a visa for, as a Thai passport holder.
    This won't change unless/until she is able to get a passport from another country.
    I don't think that is true at all
    Once she has traveled a bit and it is seen she has been reliableeith her visas in her 2nd home.....she can travel quite easy on her Thai passport.

    We were going to go to France and stopped by the Consulate here and they said it wouldn't be an issue.
    Past travel counts for a lot, IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcTwoSix View Post
    I don't think that is true at all
    Once she has traveled a bit and it is seen she has been reliableeith her visas in her 2nd home.....she can travel quite easy on her Thai passport.

    We were going to go to France and stopped by the Consulate here and they said it wouldn't be an issue.
    Past travel counts for a lot, IMO
    Around 25 international trips and 8 countries over 3 years has got to count for something! Was hoping that it would get us out of the paper warfare, but looks like I will have to wait for the PR and Australian passport for that.

    BTW, very cheap flights BKK - LAX or vice versa at the moment for December '16. (A$900 to $1100).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Around 25 international trips and 8 countries over 3 years has got to count for something! Was hoping that it would get us out of the paper warfare, but looks like I will have to wait for the PR and Australian passport for that.

    BTW, very cheap flights BKK - LAX or vice versa at the moment for December '16. (A$900 to $1100).
    If most of that travel is in Asia..........it doesn't seem to count.
    They want to see her travelling to countries where she needs to get visas..............and that is where her Australian experience might help

    I think with your travel to US and her travels to Australia......those are positives, not being married is a negative

    Regarding airfares................I have a blog I get alerts for cheap flights from YVR........the deals coming out to everywhere are astounding........sub 700cad to fly places that used to be 1300

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    Quote Originally Posted by meese View Post
    baz where are you 555555..the boys need help 55555
    I don't think he has travelled to US or Europe with his TG??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    I am looking for some insights into international travel requirements following the receipt of the Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309), and thus prior to permanent Partner visa (subclass 100).

    For example, if a TG had a 309, can they apply to visit the US as a tourist via an ESTA or some similar quick process. Essentially, does having a 309 get them treated similarly to an Australian citizen.

    I suppose, the same questions once a 100 is granted, thus Australian resident but not necessarily a citizen.
    Mrs M was in Oz with me and Bali, Singapore and Penang were the extent of our o/s travels thru that period. PR made no difference, it was all about the PP and citizenship and we delayed our Europe travel till Mrs M had her Australian Passport
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcTwoSix View Post
    I don't think he has travelled to US or Europe with his TG??
    he has been very quiet lately..have you upset him paulie 55555555555555...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meese View Post
    he has been very quiet lately..have you upset him paulie 55555555555555...
    Me.........how could I ever upset anyone? Little ol me

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    The Aussie passport is the ultimate prize mate. Before then it just sux........... I will never forget the day Dao said "freedom for the world" I will go with you everywhere. Now she would rather stay at home!!!!!!!!!!

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    Dao needed visa to enter NZ 13 Years ago (See snow) as permanent resident still only Thai PP is the only thing that matters mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcTwoSix View Post
    I don't think he has travelled to US or Europe with his TG??

    Been there - done that.
    I've no real interest as an older gentleman in revisting either to see how the backpackers, Millennials and Yuppies have ruined them.
    I know SFA about visas to either - not interested.

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