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    Geography of Thailand

    I understand that the way Thailand is build up is very different to Australia or other countries but I am not 100% sure how is is built up. For example in Australia we have states, cities, councils, towns etc but I am unsure the equivalent to Thailand.

    If anyone could explain this to me that would be great. Maybe some of the Expats will have a better of idea of this

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    It's very similar geographically speaking.... Provinces, Cities and towns....
    The main difference in comparison to Australia is the way they are governed... Australia has a federal government with a state government looking after the individual states, then within each state it is divided into shires similar to Thailands provinces, each shire is then governed by a council..... I'm not sure on how each province is governed within the kingdom but at a guess probably similar to our councils.
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    Administrative divisions of Thailand
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    Thailand is divided into 76 provinces (Thai: จังหวัด, changwat) and the special administrative unit Bangkok (กรุงเทพมหานคร, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon). Though a different administrative unit, Bangkok is at province level, so de facto Thailand has 77 provinces.

    Each of Thailand's 76 provinces is divided into districts - as of 2010 there are 878 districts (อำเภอ, amphoe) and 50 districts in Bangkok (เขต, khet). Each of the provinces has one capital district (อำเภอเมือง, amphoe mueang), e.g. for Chiang Mai it's Amphoe Mueang Chiang Mai. The exception is Ayutthaya Province, where both the province as well as the capital district have the full name Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya.

    In Bangkok the districts are called khet (เขต), and their subdivisions khwaeng (แขวง) which are equivalent to the tambon (sub-districts) in the other provinces.

    The tambon are further subdivided into muban (หมู่บ้าน), which are usually translated as villages, though they do not necessarily cover one single settlement.
    Contents

    1 Local administration
    2 Historical subdivisions
    3 Informal subdivisions
    4 References
    5 See also
    6 External links

    Local administration

    Additionally to these subdivisions, there are also cities and towns, which take over some of the responsibilities of the districts and communes on the area covered by the municipality. These all have an elected board and an elected mayor.

    There are three different levels of municipalities (Thai: เทศบาล):

    thesaban nakhon (city): More than 50,000 citizens
    thesaban mueang (town): More than 10,000 citizens - or a provincial capital
    thesaban tambon (subdistrict municipality): More than 5,000 citizens

    Despite its name, a thesaban tambon does not necessarily coincide with a single tambon.

    In addition to the population numbers the municipalities need to have enough tax revenues for the administration to be able to execute the offices of administrations.

    Towns and cities are subdivided into chumchon (communities), which are equivalent to the villages (muban) of rural areas. Nonthaburi and Chiang Mai are the only two municipalities that have an additional tier of administration, as they group their chumchon in khwaeng.

    Some towns have the word Nakhon in their name, e.g. Nakhon Ratchasima Province has one district named Amphoe Mueang Nakhon Ratchasima, as well as the city Thesaban Nakhon Nakhon Ratchasima.

    The City of Pattaya is a metropolitan municipality, it is a specially administrated area. Also the metropolitan city of Bangkok (officially called the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration) is a metropolitan municipality. As of 2010, the city of Mae Sot is planned to be converted into a special administrative area as well.
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    So there are no States/counties as such but more districts with sub-districts? I was trying to go through the geography of Australia to Noy and found it hard as I could not compare it to Thailand as I did not know the Thai side of things.

    So there is moobaan - village. Meuang - district? What is the Thai word for sub-district?

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    Thailand is divided into 76 provinces (Thai: จังหวัด, changwat) and the special administrative unit Bangkok (กรุงเทพมหานคร, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon). Though a different administrative unit, Bangkok is at province level, so de facto Thailand has 77 provinces.

    Each of Thailand's 76 provinces is divided into districts - as of 2010 there are 878 districts (อำเภอ, amphoe) and 50 districts in Bangkok (เขต, khet). Each of the provinces has one capital district (อำเภอเมือง, amphoe mueang), e.g. for Chiang Mai it's Amphoe Mueang Chiang Mai. The exception is Ayutthaya Province, where both the province as well as the capital district have the full name Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya.

    In Bangkok the districts are called khet (เขต), and their subdivisions khwaeng (แขวง) which are equivalent to the tambon (sub-districts) in the other provinces.

    The tambon are further subdivided into muban (หมู่บ้าน), which are usually translated as villages, though they do not necessarily cover one single settlement.
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    States = Provinces

    thesabaan changwat (province)
    thesabaan amphoe (district)
    thesabaan nakhon (city): More than 50,000 citizens
    thesabaan mueang (town): More than 10,000 citizens - or a provincial capital
    thesabaan tambon (subdistrict municipality): More than 5,000 citizens
    thesabaan moobaan (village)
    chumchon (communities)
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    Can someone direct me to the "Delete function"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zablive View Post
    Can someone direct me to the "Delete function"?
    Thanks for your help.
    If you go to Edit Post at bottom right corner of the post you can then edit or delete what you want. Hope that is helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4orce View Post
    Thanks for your help.
    If you go to Edit Post at bottom right corner of the post you can then edit or delete what you want. Hope that is helpful
    Thanks but I wanted to delete a whole post - doesn't appear as an option.

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    Baan seems to be more commonly used when referring to an old village whereas Moobaan is usually a developer's 'estate'. Either may be correct.

    NB: Wabb's use of 'bahn' refers to same same as above, NOT German motorways! 555
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    @ Zablive. I'm not sure you can completely delete a post. I suggest just edit the post and leave one word - "deleted".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainrob View Post
    Baan seems to be more commonly used when referring to an old village whereas Moobaan is usually a developer's 'estate'. Either may be correct.

    NB: Wabb's use of 'bahn' refers to same same as above, NOT German motorways! 555
    There is no one correct spelling of phonetic Thai - it depends on what accent your brain processes it in IMHO.
    Wiki describes "muban" (our moobaan) as a rural village - my understanding too.
    But then, when does a community become a village? My partner comes from a location which has only 6 "houses" - but it has a location name.

    So my answer comprises a broad brush administrative structure answer to the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zablive View Post
    There is no one correct spelling of phonetic Thai - it depends on what accent your brain processes it in IMHO.
    Wiki describes "muban" (our moobaan) as a rural village - my understanding too.
    But then, when does a community become a village? My partner comes from a location which has only 6 "houses" - but it has a location name.

    So my answer comprises a broad brush administrative structure answer to the OP.
    I agree with your broad answer Zab. Wiki is not always 100% and in my travels around the country 'baan' is used throughout ... whereas 'moobaan' was only encountered within muang Chiang Mai. Jo explained that it was a more common term within 'city' environs for new developments.
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    Maybe Jo is using the slang or shortened term?

    But in a legal or administrative sense I'll stick with this:

    Muban
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    Muban (Thai: หมู่บ้าน) is the lowest administrative subdivision of Thailand. Usually translated as village and sometimes as hamlet, they are the subdivision of tambon. As of 2008, there are 74944 administrative villages in Thailand[1]. As of the 1990 census, the average village consisted of 144 households or 746 persons.
    Nomenclature

    Muban may function as one word, in the sense of a hamlet or village, and as such may be shortened to Ban. Mu ban may also function as two words, i.e., หมู่ group (of) บ้าน homes.

    Mu, in the sense of group (of homes in a tambon,) are assigned numbers in the sequence in which each is entered in a register maintained in the district or branch-district office.
    Ban, in the sense of home or habitation for members of each group, are assigned a number (Thai:บ้านเลขที่, ban lek ti ) in the sequence in which each is added to the household register also maintained in the district or branch-district office. Each ban is registered in the name of a householder (Thai: เจ้าบ้าน chow ban). Assigned Ban and Mu numbers, together with the names of Tambon, District and Province, are used as geographic addresses by government agencies; Thailand Post adds a postal code. Village or Ban names do not usually form part of such official addresses, as explained below.
    Ban in the sense of Village occurs in geopolitical toponyms on maps and Thai highway network signage, but these are not administrative subdivisions. Such village names may apply to an isolated muban, but typically apply to a group of adjoining ones, which often have been subdivided from the original settlement. Each new mu is assigned a new number, in the sequence in which it is registered; existing homes or ban in newly numbered mu are assigned new numbers starting with #1. The village name of the original settlement is usually retained for the larger grouping.

    Such village names are not part of a household address, unless Ban is retained as part of the toponym when such a settlement is upgraded — e.g., a household in Ban Dan would be addressed as Ban No.__ Mu No.__, Ban Dan subdistrict, Ban Dan District, Buriram; or #/# T[ambon].Ban Dan A[mphoe].Ban Dan, Buriram 31000.

    Note: Usage of the short form number/number for ban/mu is both unofficial and unambiguous in a tambon, but in city districts is restricted to subdivision of an original household registration into additional household registrations.

    Administration

    Each such mu or group is led by a headman, usually called village headman or village chief (Thai:ผู้ใหญ่บ้าน, Phu Yai Ban[2]) who is elected by the population of the village and then appointed by the Ministry of the Interior. The headman has two assistants, one for Government affairs and one for Security Affairs. There also may be a Village Committee with elected members from the village, serving as an advisory body of a village. Originally the village headman once elected was in office until reaching retirement age. They now only serve for a five year term but can then apply for reelection.

    Villages which are part of a town or city (thesaban mueang and thesaban nakhon) have no village headman.
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