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    Espresso Machine for Phuket Apartment

    I've been thinking of getting an espresso coffee machine for my apartment. Nescafe instant ain't doing it for me in the mornings.

    Does anyone have any advice about obtaining supplies of coffee beans in Phuket and what to look out for when selecting a coffee machine? I've never owned one before and google seems to always lead me to expensive enthusiast/connoisseur options.

    There seems to be a huge price range in coffee machines. I'm prepared to spend up to 15K baht - and yes I realise I can buy a lot of cups of coffee down at the Kamala Bakery for 15K baht - but I want to make nice coffee in my apartment.

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    The website I told you about for computer bits also does household appliances. Stuff is usually a little cheaper if you can find it locally but it will give you an idea of what is available for 15K.

    http://www.invadeit.co.th/category/coffee-makers/
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    Jo's a coffee addict and qualified Barista. Our Krupps machine is ~10 years old and well-worn, so she's been begging for a new one ... to go with the new house ... lol.

    Krupps do make good equipment, you can see them at Robinsons, but there are a few things to consider.

    Do you want hands on grinding and making ie. manual coffee making, or an automatic machine? Laid back retired folk can afford to choose based on quality of the end result rather than convenience.

    Automatic machines, Saeco/Krupps are good quality, but do have service problems and may require more cleaning than cheaper manual models. There's usually 2 heating elements, one for water and one for steam. Calcification can be a problem. The grinder is not as efficient as stand-alone burr-milling units with multiple settings. Spent shot bin needs to be emptied and cleaned regularly or mold may grow overnight.

    A manual coffee maker requires a separate burr grinder and Krupps make a good one @ ~ 4,000 Bt. Manual machines no internal moving parts and less maintenance overall. They make a better cuppa.

    Cappuccino ... this is the worst problem with domestic machines IMHO. Frothing milk is an art in itself and done on either manual or auto machines requires meticulous cleaning afterward. We drink black or espresso.

    Give it careful consideration before buying. Both manual and auto have benefits depending on ones preferences. Quality Thai coffee beans are widely available throughout Thailand, mainly Arabica from up north, and the best [fresh] retail supplier we've found is Makro. [other than local growers ...]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupdragon View Post
    The website I told you about for computer bits also does household appliances. Stuff is usually a little cheaper if you can find it locally but it will give you an idea of what is available for 15K.

    Coffee Makers Thailand, Coffee Machines Thailand, Espresso Machines Thailand Thailand - invadeIT
    Nothing wrong with Gaggia.
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    I'm lazy so I just got one of these here in Oz .... about $1 a coffee ... very pleased with the quality of them ... no mess system ... not at the "Professional" end of things but 10 times better than the instant stuff ....

    Enjoy...
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    I'm not into cappuccinos or lattes - I like long blacks (Americanos) and the occasional espresso.

    The Gaggia Classic seems to have a good name but the 25K baht local price on invadeit is fairly steep.

    Following google, there seems to be a lot of support for the Rancillio Silvia but it would be around 30K baht to land in Thailand from Amazon UK with the correct voltage (US Amazon is cheaper but 110 volts is useless here).

    I have no idea if I'm likely to get hit with additional import duties in Thailand if I use Amazon UK. Any suggestions or experience on this?
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    It has pods for those styles to ...long blacks (Americanos) and the occasional espresso.....

    ... all depends how serious a coffee drinker you are.... value and cost are relative to what its worth to you ...

    For me 25k for a kitchen appliance I use 3 to 5 times a week once the novelty wears off? Nah, I'll stay in the sub 10 k range thanks...

    Up to you... Enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubbins View Post
    I'm not into cappuccinos or lattes - I like long blacks (Americanos) and the occasional espresso.

    The Gaggia Classic seems to have a good name but the 25K baht local price on invadeit is fairly steep.

    Following google, there seems to be a lot of support for the Rancillio Silvia but it would be around 30K baht to land in Thailand from Amazon UK with the correct voltage (US Amazon is cheaper but 110 volts is useless here).

    I have no idea if I'm likely to get hit with additional import duties in Thailand if I use Amazon UK. Any suggestions or experience on this?
    shoot me a PM and i can pass it onto Sefton, he is a coffee addict and loves/knows his machines and also is always getting stuff sent to him
    he will give you some good, detailed advice

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    Is there an option to get the item sent as a gift , in wrapping paper , that might mean you don't get hit for any other taxes

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    Have you tried a French Press? I just switched from an automatic drip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stillearly View Post
    Is there an option to get the item sent as a gift , in wrapping paper , that might mean you don't get hit for any other taxes
    I`ve been able to get a lot of things in that way untaxed.
    Some sellers/suppliers refuse to do it that was while other "one man operations" often will.

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    Check out Krups at Robinsons or Gaggia at Makro. Also, Boncafe shop 1km past the big TescoLotus (heading toward SuperCheap) in PT.

    NB: Makro's Cafe Tiera Breakfast Blend is a strong well-balanced brew .... its popular and sells out very fast.

    Rancillio is one of the best but no good buying something you can't get local service/parts for.

    Minders pod machine is good, I've used one in Oz, although there are at least 2 different pod standards and supply of pods may be a problem in Th. I know some ppl in CM who buy empty (refillable) pods and pack themselves ... sort of defeats the no-fuss convenience plus ground coffee loses freshness very fast.
    Cheers, Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dupree View Post
    Have you tried a French Press? I just switched from an automatic drip.
    I used to have a french press at work. It certainly makes superior coffee to instant but I like espresso machine coffee even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainrob View Post
    Check out Krups at Robinsons or Gaggia at Makro. Also, Boncafe shop 1km past the big TescoLotus (heading toward SuperCheap) in PT.

    NB: Makro's Cafe Tiera Breakfast Blend is a strong well-balanced brew .... its popular and sells out very fast.

    Rancillio is one of the best but no good buying something you can't get local service/parts for.

    Minders pod machine is good, I've used one in Oz, although there are at least 2 different pod standards and supply of pods may be a problem in Th. I know some ppl in CM who buy empty (refillable) pods and pack themselves ... sort of defeats the no-fuss convenience plus ground coffee loses freshness very fast.
    Thanks Rob. I'll take a spin out to Makro for a look at what they've got - hopefully the rain will hold off. I'll have a look in Index and Koncept too while I'm out that way.

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    I've never been a fan of the prepacked pod setup. Do the Krups allow you to use fresh beans?
    I just girl in bar. Buy me one dink?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dupree View Post
    I've never been a fan of the prepacked pod setup. Do the Krups allow you to use fresh beans?
    Yes, a 10k Bt machine is available ex Robinsons/Central. Needs a grinder @ 3.5k Bt. Details send via E to Mike.

    Krups make pod machines also but I'm not a fan.
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    As suggested, I got in touch with LiL from AI. He and KR both suggested I look at BonCafe, which I did yesterday.

    LiL is certainly very informed about coffee making and he emphasised the importance of after sales service and support.

    I found a Gaggia Classic machine at Makro for 20K baht and that model gets very good reviews but I doubt there would be much in the way of after sales support from Makro. Anyway I ended up at BonCafe and they are a specialist outlet with good service infrastructure, so I went with them.

    I got one of these for 16,400 baht with two kilos of beans and free delivery to Kamala.
    Boncafe (Thailand) - Saeco Via Veneto Combi De Luxe - Boncafe

    It will be delivered this afternoon and I'm looking forward to firing it up and tasting its output.

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    You'll be ready for strong coffee by then ...
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    The coffee machine just arrived and the lady gave us a half hour lesson on how to drive it. The first cup out of the machine was a beautiful espresso with a rich crema. I'm going to really enjoy this thing.

    No I didn't fall over last night but I did weave a bit walking up that damned hill. 'Twas quite a good night last night - the beers kinda snuck up on me 555!

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