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    Thais donít want us to follow the laws.

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    Thais don’t want us to follow the laws. If they did they would not make it so frigging difficult to follow them with all the paperwork that has to be done in widely separated places.

    I would LIKE to follow the laws and rules of the country, but the Thai system makes it very difficult and frustrating.
    For example, I would like my motorbike to be registered, licensed and insured up to Thai standards. I want to have a valid driver’s license. Unfortunately, it takes about a week to get this all done, with much waiting in various line-ups. I understand that this creates lots of jobs for people, but my gawd the inefficiency of the system. No wonder so many people just don’t bother. I know at least a dozen Thais who own various vehicles and still don’t have any of them licensed. Nor do they have driver’s licenses.

    The immigration reporting system is another nightmare for tourists, foreign workers and long term residents. The huge line ups and long waits at Chiang Mai’s immigration near the airport is a totally bizarre situation. They’ve eased SOME of the congestion by moving part of it (Burmese workers) way out in the boonies across from the Promenada Mall. That is also where a tourist has to go to get “official” residency papers which you need to get a Thai driver’s license. Of course, they hid that office in behind a construction site, and off a gravel road. From what I could see, the only signs were in Thai… if at all. I only found it because a friend told me how and where to turn, and what to do when I got there. And, you better have all your documents in order or you have to do it all over again… 2 passport photos, residency document from where you are staying, passport etc. Multi photo copies are made, you pay 500 baht… and then come back the FOLLOWING day to pick up the forms.

    Not done yet. Then you go to the motor vehicle office off the Hangdong road and go upstairs to the information booth. The nice lady sends you to get MORE photocopies made of everything, and then you go back to her to be sent for the eye testing. That is pretty straight forward if you are not totally colour blind. Then, you go back to the nice lady AGAIN to get a NUMBER to wait in line for the first available agent who will fill out more forms, take your money and take your picture. About an hour or so later you should have your nice new plastic driver’s license… good for one year. At which point you have to do it all over again.

    You’re still not done. Now you have to have to TRY and get insurance for your motorbike. Oh, sorry about that. Remember when you went way out to the immigration office to get all those forms? You should have gotten another couple of sets of those forms for yourself. You need them to insure the motorbike in your name. So, you go BACK to the immigration office hidden behind the construction site and pay ANOTHER 500 baht to the office… and be sure you have 2 more photo copies of your passport and 2 little 2”x2.5” photos to match. Then you wait ANOTHER day and go back again to get the completed forms. Depending on where you live you should be up to about 300 km of travel by now. I would hate to think of the cost if you were traveling by tuk tuk or taxi.

    Now, it’s back to the government office on Lamphun Road, near the Rajavej hospital. You pay you 650 baht and the lady who takes your money sends you into the next office where the nice lady looks at the motorcycle green book and sees that it is registered in someone else’s name. Whoops! Just because you have all the proper documentation saying who and where you bought it from, that’s not enough. You have to go to another office down the road where a guy takes the green book and disappears into an office with it. A mechanic tests the motorbike to see if lights are working, and gets the registration number off the bike and takes it to the guy who took the green book. Ah, now everything is in order and after paying another 100 baht it’s back to the pretty lady in the OTHER office who will give you a number for the first available lady who will enter documents in ANOTHER computer and for another 100 baht you get a little 4”x4” decal to say you are FINALLY licensed and legal to drive or ride.

    See you next year when you have do the whole process all over again.

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    ^^^^ Keeps you out of mischief Ian 55555

    If I ever do move over permanently I may just have to employ you as my guide...
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    Bloody tourists - residency certificates are free (allegedly) from Immi.
    Next year give your papers to the lady down the road and she'll renew the lot for a few baht - find a branch rego place.

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    That's nothing...55555

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteGill View Post
    ^^^^ Keeps you out of mischief Ian 55555

    If I ever do move over permanently I may just have to employ you as my guide...
    It was mostly a tongue in cheek story, Pete, but it did happen as related. It didn't bother me too much because I really don't have a lot of important things to do anyway. And, I do enjoy touring around on my bike... but my gawd the inefficiency of the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zablive View Post
    Bloody tourists - residency certificates are free (allegedly) from Immi.
    Next year give your papers to the lady down the road and she'll renew the lot for a few baht - find a branch rego place.
    I think you are correct, Zab. The first few years getting it done was quite simple and hardly cost me anything, but I think immigration learned a new method to fleece tourists. I did learn how important the green book was, though. For Christ sake don't lose it or you will never be able to sell your bike or car. Treat it like your passport.

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    LoR's at CM were free then 500 baht and then free again and now back to 500 baht and from a different office.

    roadworthy cert needed for a bike 7 years old or older before road tax renewal will be accepted.

    things change here all the time and it's best to keep on top of it with frequent reading of reports on the net.

    getting a LoR to buy insurance is a complete misunderstanding. is the first time you have paid tax on it? surely you've done that before at the land tax office.
    Last edited by Moo Uaon; 24th December 2014 at 15:01.
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