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    What happened to the tourists?

    I've never seen Chiang Mai so dead on a New Year's eve. I expected crowds of people milling around in the heart of the city, but I could have driven a truck through just about anywhere with no problem.

    A friend and I went out about 8 PM and I easily found a parking space just off Loi Kroh, and there was lots of extra room for others. We joined another couple I know at the Pizza bar and we both remarked on the lack of people in the street. I stopped at a few more bars to talk with friends I knew and all the bars had very few customers. The staff all agreed.

    Then, we walked down to the Iron Bridge and over to the Narawat bridge. That area is usually packed with people on New Years eve. Lanterns are usually going up by the thousands. Not last night.

    In previous years it was a solid mass of people that you could barely push through. At 10:30 at night I could have walked anywhere and not bumped into anyone. I would have expected the sky to be filled with lanterns but there were only a few going up.

    It was so liveless that we decided to go home. I watched the midnight fireworks from my balcony and went to bed.

    My only conclusion is the Thai government has done their job in chasing away tourists and taking the life out of the party. Maybe they will complete their plan and ban water during Song kran.
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    A function of too much political upheaval and weak currency against the baht, I reckon. Or it could be a start of a new trend... no more high tourist season... maybe the bubble has finally burst.
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    Interestingly it seems to be all over Thai.

    Below is a quote from a Kiwi bar and room owner in Patts.

    "Its been fairly quiet here - high season----what high season? Have a kiwi staying in room 1 for a month and he's just returned from Cambodia and Vietnam, he said its very busy there and that this place felt like a morque in comparison."

    Other guys expats are saying the same even last night was easy to walk thru to Beach Rd to watch the fireworks. last year packed still.everyone is short of budget for this time of year. Even the 2 major 7/11's in Pats are down 32% on last years turnover. So they say.

    One benefit... lots of new fresh faces on Coconut bar (beach Rd) many cleaners receptionist shop workers all needing to make money.
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    When you factor in that the Russian currency has more than halved in value this year that would mean that Ivan and his friends no longer have any "rouble room" in the budget. So it's "Nostrovia Tovarich!" from Vladivostock this year...555
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    not that many russkies go to CM.
    we noticed early on it was well down on usual NYE numbers around CM. people and "com loi" lanterns in the sky.

    probably more to do with coup earlier in the year when people make bookings and general global downturn.
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    I think even BKK is quiet as well. This year was quite disappointing in the fireworks in BKK. It used to had so much fireworks around BKK upon count down but this year way too little fireworks.

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    I found the comment from the Kiwi staying in my friends room in Patts that he had come from Viet and Cambo where he found it packed out.
    It says Thai has a problem. It isn't a world wide downturn.
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    Yeah my friend JayJay messaged me and stated that TIGER in Patong was dead before midnight. But said it was a slight uptick after midnight....but unlike other NYE's in Patong. He stated that by the time i got here on the 8th of Jan, it will be like low season again. a bit of an exaggeration..... but Tiger not busy on NYE is not the usual on Bangla Rd. I will personally report back in 6 days

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    Does this mean LT prices have come down? 555 Just kidding.....
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    I won't be complaining if it's quieter than usual. Surely a good thing for 'buyers' although I'm sure the girls will be hungrier for lady drinks.

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    I will be sure to supply then ..... Survival of the fittest though

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    Bangla road NYE is usually bat **** froot loops.
    Bars and street packed, beach going off. Not same this year?
    And where the hell was Biggles.....?....when you needed him last Saturday....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Forbes View Post
    In previous years it was a solid mass of people that you could barely push through. At 10:30 at night I could have walked anywhere and not bumped into anyone. I would have expected the sky to be filled with lanterns but there were only a few going up.

    It was so liveless that we decided to go home. I watched the midnight fireworks from my balcony and went to bed.

    My only conclusion is the Thai government has done their job in chasing away tourists and taking the life out of the party. Maybe they will complete their plan and ban water during Song kran.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smiley View Post
    A function of too much political upheaval and weak currency against the baht, I reckon. Or it could be a start of a new trend... no more high tourist season... maybe the bubble has finally burst.
    Quote Originally Posted by justcruzing1 View Post
    I found the comment from the Kiwi staying in my friends room in Patts that he had come from Viet and Cambo where he found it packed out.
    It says Thai has a problem. It isn't a world wide downturn.
    The powers that be seem to have a mind set that people come to Thailand for it's culture and temples. They want "quality tourists" who will drop off plenty of money, in a couple of weeks, in the high end joints they are invested in. That backpackers, package tourists, long stay expats, and others come to have a good time, one way or another, seems to have escaped the killjoys.

    Thailand got in early on the relatively cheap long haul flight tourism thing, but it is far from unique. Now it has plenty of competition, and there is going to be more. Burma has several potential Phukets. There are other attractive destinations around Asia, and the world, developing what they have, or opening up.

    Living under martial law may have cleaned up some issues (on the surface) but it has killed the vibe in the process. Phuket's transport situation has not really improved any. Jet ski cowboys are still there. Umbrellas, chairs and service on the beaches curtailed.

    Murders and other violence affecting tourists don't help the situation….. but the police handling of the same is probably more damaging.

    Quote Originally Posted by Changone View Post
    Bangla road NYE is usually bat **** froot loops.
    Bars and street packed, beach going off. Not same this year?
    Last year seemed somewhat subdued….. this year those who were out were having a good time, but subdued last year was more lively by comparison.
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    There does seem to be not many people around BKK... It's a long weekend, and all the Thais (not all, but you know what I mean) have taken off up country.. The number of street vendors around at the moment is really low. And there doesn't SEEM tobe many tourists around at all.

    The artificial strength of the baht, I think has a lot to do with it as well... The west is attempting to send the Russians broke, to the point that the rouble has lost app 40% of value. That has to make some impact on tourist numbers. Russia sounds like a very cheap holiday at the moment... The deal just done with the Chinese re: currency swap, will have the effect of weakening the baht in my view. It looks like the Thais are moving to uncouple the baht from the USD. So that will be a fillip for exporters and the tourist industry.

    The big one is the coup... Now, the supporters will say.. "coup? so what? It is still ok here." Well yeah, that is true to an extent... But, people who have not been here and were maybe considering a trip here, may well have been put off by the thoughts of a coup and the interminable application of martial law. I know, it means bugger all... BUT MANY DO NOT!! It's funny, I have a couple of mates in neighbouring countries, and they are telling me those countries are busy.

    I n the eyes of outsiders,Thailand has shot itself squarely in both feet, with the coup and martial law, and will take time for it to recover. The closer ties with China, also, have a lot of people giving this place a harder look.

    Even the clean beaches can't get 'em back at the moment.

    Interesting times ahead
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    It has to be the no beach umbrellas policy.......
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    1 USD is 33 baht at the moment. Good time for Americans to fly, but they're too far to make snap decisions.

    26.8 for the AUD. I doubt I'll go in April either at this rate, that's shocking. It'll most likely be the Philippines now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smiley View Post
    A function of too much political upheaval and weak currency against the baht, I reckon. Or it could be a start of a new trend... no more high tourist season... maybe the bubble has finally burst.
    From your point of view Bobby hows Patong been?? I'm hearing very quite from a few of the locals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintman View Post
    From your point of view Bobby hows Patong been?? I'm hearing very quite from a few of the locals
    NYE 2014 me and friends from back home were stuck in a human traffic jam for nearly 20 minutes. Walking back into Bangla from beach road 2 inches at a time. This seems like a major drop compared to what I've seen in the high season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    1 USD is 33 baht at the moment. Good time for Americans to fly, but they're too far to make snap decisions.

    26.8 for the AUD. I doubt I'll go in April either at this rate, that's shocking. It'll most likely be the Philippines now.
    As my Feb trip is already booked I will just have to look at ways of making my Rand's stretch a bit further. No Pattaya this time around, and a little less generous with the LD's should help a lot.
    Luckily I have always been quite content to stay in the cheaper guest houses and hotels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    1 USD is 33 baht at the moment. Good time for Americans to fly, but they're too far to make snap decisions.

    26.8 for the AUD. I doubt I'll go in April either at this rate, that's shocking. It'll most likely be the Philippines now.
    Il try drop ya a PM later on phillipines or maybe start a thread - I wasn't too impressed with the place mate

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