Australian Visa options/strategies

Cobba

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MarcTwoSix;379265 said:
Why are you blaming the company?
She's an adult and should know where she stands already with such little time left
That is on her just sitting there and not pushing for an answer
If you knew this girl you would understand why..... She is shy, very quite, lacks a little self confidence and being up front pushing those of authority is just not her character. Her freinds describe her as being "too nice", often letting people walk over her....

MarcTwoSix;379265 said:
And if she has pushed them and they haven't come back to her with such little time left she already has her answer and she is not as valued as you make her out to be
I guess having trust has played against her here, relying on the companies broken promises..... Valued employee???, sure and by promising her the world, kept her for as long as possible for them otherwise she may have walked earlier.

MarcTwoSix;379265 said:
And what positives would come from you prompting her to resign from her job abruptly?
That sounds like it has nothing but negative implications and does her no good.

Why anyone would suggest she resign rather than act like an adult and go to her boss or HR and ask again if they plan on sponsoring and remind them she is under time constraints is beyond me
Its pretty easy to raise statements as above when you dont know the full facts. She has busted her a*se since she stepped foot into this country studying and supporting herself while doing so. Then, she has worked full time to date. As a result, she hasnt had the time to get out much and see Sydney or surrounding areas...... The visa expires soon so why work up to the day of departure?....... She dosent need the money, and now has the time to step back from work and get out and about seeing some of the sites.

She has asked the company repeatedly for a meeting to look at further employment/visa options where they have promised/cancelled and then promised again to deliver...... An aussie saying is "its like flogging a dead horse"....... They are well aware she is under time restraints as you say it and well aware of when her visa expires......

I say f**k them
 

MarcTwoSix

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Cobba;379277 said:
If you knew this girl you would understand why..... She is shy, very quite, lacks a little self confidence and being up front pushing those of authority is just not her character. Her freinds describe her as being "too nice", often letting people walk over her....


I guess having trust has played against her here, relying on the companies broken promises..... Valued employee???, sure and by promising her the world, kept her for as long as possible for them otherwise she may have walked earlier.



Its pretty easy to raise statements as above when you dont know the full facts. She has busted her a*se since she stepped foot into this country studying and supporting herself while doing so. Then, she has worked full time to date. As a result, she hasnt had the time to get out much and see Sydney or surrounding areas...... The visa expires soon so why work up to the day of departure?....... She dosent need the money, and now has the time to step back from work and get out and about seeing some of the sites.

She has asked the company repeatedly for a meeting to look at further employment/visa options where they have promised/cancelled and then promised again to deliver...... An aussie saying is "its like flogging a dead horse"....... They are well aware she is under time restraints as you say it and well aware of when her visa expires......

I say f**k them
Nice mature attitude and how do you know the full facts? Some girl you been dating for all of 3months told you so, that's all you have to go by.
Before you said she was a valued employee but obviously not that valued so you obviously don't know all the facts.

So all that tells me they don't really value her as much as you say they do.
Which is not the end of the world or any sort of bad reflection on her. That is just the dynamics of work environments at times.

But I still wouldn't tell her to resign abruptly
Nothing wrong with giving her notice but if they want her to remain for a certain notice period I would advise her to
Only negatives can come from walking out in a huff if she plans to seek employment in Australia in the future and needs a good reference.

You always seem to want to talk about the fact her family is wealthy and she doesn't need money
Yet she is allowing you to pay for a Visa when she hardly knows you

As I said before.....it's uncanny how these "normal girls" sure seem to find themselves in situations where they are getting some sort of financial aspect out of the relationship.......

This is touching on more the relationship aspect and I don't want to derail your Visa thread but why wouldn't she pay for her own Visa?
Why would you introduce these financial aspects so early into a relationship?
In your other thread you talk about risks of settling down with a BG yet after already getting burned by giving money so early in another relationship and you are looking to do so again
Introducing those financial aspects into a relationship so early is probably the biggest risk than any girl's past

I actually think you guys should pursue any temporary Visa you can to spend more time with her. That is a no brainer
I certainly wouldn't be looking into any sort of spouse Visa with a girl you barely know....that's just madness and sets you up for failure.

But I would suggest she pays for her own Visa as you have gone on how she and her family has the money
There is zero reason for you to be paying it.
 

OZZYGUY

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MarcTwoSix;379279 said:
But I would suggest she pays for her own Visa as you have gone on how she and her family has the money
There is zero reason for you to be paying it.
I would expect the family did the original student visa in 2014.

A student visa requires a large deposit, think it is about 45k AUD. You don’t actually pay the money just need liquid funds and proof of it from what I understand. The biggest cost is the study fees and I would assume accounting would be a fair bit. Janice paid 30k a year for her uni fees but Australian citizens pay only 7k. You need to book the study to get the visa.

My wife did her second student visa as we had split at the time, but she tells me she didn’t need the deposit the second time round just the application fee. That’s about $600 but you still pay the school fees, most places do payments plans.

I was lucky I met my wife after the deposit & fees and my FIL got stuck with it...55
 

OZZYGUY

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Moo Uaon;379282 said:
Think she'd have to go home and apply for a TV from LOS.
Only if the no further stay condition is on the current visa, and I dont think it will be. Truck loads of the girls we know have extended while in Aust.
 

Cobba

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MarcTwoSix;379279 said:
Nice mature attitude and how do you know the full facts? Some girl you been dating for all of 3months told you so, that's all you have to go by.
Before you said she was a valued employee but obviously not that valued so you obviously don't know all the facts.

So all that tells me they don't really value her as much as you say they do.
Which is not the end of the world or any sort of bad reflection on her. That is just the dynamics of work environments at times.

But I still wouldn't tell her to resign abruptly
Nothing wrong with giving her notice but if they want her to remain for a certain notice period I would advise her to
Only negatives can come from walking out in a huff if she plans to seek employment in Australia in the future and needs a good reference.

You always seem to want to talk about the fact her family is wealthy and she doesn't need money
Yet she is allowing you to pay for a Visa when she hardly knows you

As I said before.....it's uncanny how these "normal girls" sure seem to find themselves in situations where they are getting some sort of financial aspect out of the relationship.......

This is touching on more the relationship aspect and I don't want to derail your Visa thread but why wouldn't she pay for her own Visa?
Why would you introduce these financial aspects so early into a relationship?
In your other thread you talk about risks of settling down with a BG yet after already getting burned by giving money so early in another relationship and you are looking to do so again
Introducing those financial aspects into a relationship so early is probably the biggest risk than any girl's past

I actually think you guys should pursue any temporary Visa you can to spend more time with her. That is a no brainer
I certainly wouldn't be looking into any sort of spouse Visa with a girl you barely know....that's just madness and sets you up for failure.

But I would suggest she pays for her own Visa as you have gone on how she and her family has the money
There is zero reason for you to be paying it.
Why do you keep mentioning her parents as "they are wealthy"...... I have never said this...... I did however mention them as being successful and of a "higher class" to the families of the Issan girls i had previous.

Cobba;379169 said:
Spouse visa/partner visa/working visa all come at a high dollar cost which i am not worried about paying, i just want to invest the correct visa where we will get the most benefits out of.
Here is where i am confussed when you keep mentioning that Cobba will be paying for her visa....... The statement above reads two ways and maybe i should have refined a bit more so its a no brainer >>> We just want to invest the correct visa where we will get the most benefits out of....... BTW, not mentioned before is that she has mentioned on many occasions that she dosent want financial help from me for anything. Now we are in a relationship and for me not to offer would be a demonstration i have no balls and/or have no feelings for her.

And another, referring to having only known the girl for a short time....... The former Issan girls sure, not long enough having only spent a few vacations with them in Thailand. That is a much different scenario to where i am now with my GF..... Now and for quite some time, she spends 5 nights out of 7 at my home. The remaining 2 nights we restaurant dine together. I am sure i know my/her feelings for each other are valid......

MarcTwoSix;379279 said:
In your other thread you talk about risks of settling down with a BG yet after already getting burned by giving money so early in another relationship and you are looking to do so again
This is very bold and holds no weight...... As said earlier, i have had plenty of time to spend the time, monitor and get to know this girl where ultimately our feelings have evolved into love..... That is good enough for me....
 

MarcTwoSix

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OZZYGUY;379284 said:
Only if the no further stay condition is on the current visa, and I dont think it will be. Truck loads of the girls we know have extended while in Aust.
Australia does seem to give them a bit of leeway
That is pretty damn good
 

OZZYGUY

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MarcTwoSix;379290 said:
Australia does seem to give them a bit of leeway
That is pretty damn good
Except when it comes to my current issue with kid visa's. Don’t wish that on anyone, frustrating as F#CK
 

Cobba

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OZZYGUY;379272 said:
Cobba check to see if her current visa has the 'No further stay' condition on it. If it does she needs to go back to Thailand and its unlikley you can change it.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/corporate/information/fact-sheets/52b-nfc
Thanks very much Ozzyguy....... I will ask her tonight and if there is no "no further stay" restrictions, we may be able to call the department explaining that since she has been in Aus, she has not been able to sight see or spend any vacation time due to full time study/work........ this may be our "get out of jail free" card....... If so, i will be in debt to you for your valued advice....... Cheers...... !
 

OZZYGUY

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Cobba;379298 said:
if there is no "no further stay" restrictions, we may be able to call the department explaining that since she has been in Aus, she has not been able to sight see or spend any vacation time due to full time study/work........ this may be our "get out of jail free" card....... If so, i will be in debt to you for your valued advice....... Cheers...... !

Sorry to say this is very unlikely to happen if the no further stay is on the visa. They only approved extra time to stay under extreme circumstances like abuse back home not to just see the country. If this condition is on the visa it’s like 99% chance she will be going home and I wouldnt even bother trying, Ive done it before with a past GF.

One the other hand if its not on the visa you can apply for a TV and use this reason
 

MarcTwoSix

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OZZYGUY;379300 said:
Sorry to say this is very unlikely to happen if the no further stay is on the visa. They only approved extra time to stay under extreme circumstances like abuse back home not to just see the country. If this condition is on the visa it’s like 99% chance she will be going home and I wouldnt even bother trying, Ive done it before with a past GF.

One the other hand if its not on the visa you can apply for a TV and use this reason
I'm not from Australia but I highly doubt a limited graduate Visa wouldn't have the "no further stay" on it

They give these type of visas for the exact purpose of a limited work stay, I would be shocked if they would then allow that to be extended
 

OZZYGUY

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MarcTwoSix;379302 said:
I'm not from Australia but I highly doubt a limited graduate Visa wouldn't have the "no further stay" on it

They give these type of visas for the exact purpose of a limited work stay, I would be shocked if they would then allow that to be extended
I have had 457 work visa's extended and not just one a fair few but this was some time ago, and also student visa's in my wife’s case and few of her friends.

Was actually very surprised when my MIL came over in April on a TV she didn’t have this no further stay condition on her visa. I thought all TV's had it.
 

MarcTwoSix

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OZZYGUY;379305 said:
I have had 457 work visa's extended and not just one a fair few but this was some time ago, and also student visa's in my wife’s case and few of her friends.

Was actually very surprised when my MIL came over in April on a TV she didn’t have this no further stay condition on her visa. I thought all TV's had it.
Were the work visas extended for continued work?
 

MarcTwoSix

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By the way I was interested and fell down the Aussie Immigrantion website rabbit hole

You guys have way too many fxuking visas!
And some complicated sounding names for them!

Canada seems to have about 3 types of visas and they are called exactly what they do
Work Permit, Visitor Visa, Study Visa

I'm sure there are some more but those 3 basically cover it
 

Cobba

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Thanks for all the replies.... Well there is some hope and fingers crossed. I just had a call from the GF (SI, here initials) to let me know that she will be home later than usual because the meeting is taking place today after COB. Given the companies track record I am not holding my breath but just hope this time they are true to their words. Hopefully when she arrives here she will have good news to share.

BTW, and something not mentioned previously. The company deals with the intake of international students, overseeing their academic needs and results whilst in Aus. SI told me previously that they employ a full time immigration lawyer that is very sassy with all the immigration loopholes. I hope for both of our sakes everything goes well if the meeting goes ahead
 

Cobba

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MarcTwoSix;379319 said:
You guys have way too many fxuking visas!
Yes, that’s because immigration like to make it hard for foreigners to come to the chosen land. After all, Australia is the best country on this planet to visit and we need to sift out the crap before entry 555555

Just kidding 55555
 

OzzyDamo

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I would let her go back, your going to see her and her family in November for how long a month?

Then apply for a TV after the holiday to Thailand, that would take you through to march next year and will be getting close to the 12months of defacto relationship and you will be more sure of the situation.

What ever you do don't get married yet!
 

Cobba

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OzzyDamo;379357 said:
I would let her go back, your going to see her and her family in November for how long a month?

Then apply for a TV after the holiday to Thailand, that would take you through to march next year and will be getting close to the 12months of defacto relationship and you will be more sure of the situation.

What ever you do don't get married yet!
If she has to go back yes, I will go in November as planned. Only for two weeks but ..... Agree, not to get married yet but my ultimate goal will be yes in the future....

I am still yet to hear from her and it’s starting to get late. The meeting must be pretty involved to carry on for so long. I hope to hear from her soon
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