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MarcTwoSix

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Some issues from COVID

I think when you book a flight, that flight will end up getting changed a lot with much worse connections
Happened to me right before the lockdown and just happened to a guy at work with his family going to Hawaii

And I think smaller planes will be used on a lot of routes
Which sucks

When I fly to/from Boston, I always connect either Montreal or Toronto
And always choose the bigger planes with more than one aisle.
It makes a massive difference vs the planes with just that one middle aisle
 

Moo Uaon

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My domestic flight to Melbourne with Qantas uses a 330 Airbus now instead of the usual Boeing 737 to keep a bit of spacing... or so the theory was. Last time it was packed shoulder to shoulder ^^^^^^^^
 

MarcTwoSix

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Moo Uaon;441306 said:
My domestic flight to Melbourne with Qantas uses a 330 Airbus now instead of the usual Boeing 737 to keep a bit of spacing... or so the theory was. Last time it was packed shoulder to shoulder ^^^^^^^^
I don't know actual type of planes
But I think 777 are the ones with 2 aisles
And Airbus 320 are the ones with the single middle aisle

I saw one flight that had the bigger plane but I'd imagine they switch that out for the smaller plane if not enough passengers

It really makes a huge difference in terms of comfort
 

kaptainrob

Administrator
MarcTwoSix;441312 said:
I don't know actual type of planes
But I think 777 are the ones with 2 aisles
And Airbus 320 are the ones with the single middle aisle

I saw one flight that had the bigger plane but I'd imagine they switch that out for the smaller plane if not enough passengers

It really makes a huge difference in terms of comfort
Yes, 777 and A330 are similar sized twin aisle.

Many airlines are using larger planes on domestic routes ostensibly for social distancing (bullshit) whilst in fact carrying more cargo. Cargo rates have increased during covid, quadrupling at one stage but now coming down again. Naturally, if they can also fill more seats with pax, as Qantas is doing, then they will.
 

MarcTwoSix

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kaptainrob;441324 said:
Yes, 777 and A330 are similar sized twin aisle.

Many airlines are using larger planes on domestic routes ostensibly for social distancing (bullshit) whilst in fact carrying more cargo. Cargo rates have increased during covid, quadrupling at one stage but now coming down again. Naturally, if they can also fill more seats with pax, as Qantas is doing, then they will.
Air Canada has seemed to do the opposite
Most of the flights are smaller one aisle planes

I feel so claustrophobic on those planes
 

kaptainrob

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"Bad news for Aussie wanderers ...https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/progr...6NILZHylyzEH9E"A rather pessimistic title although the article elaborates realistically. Alana (lol) has taken the view that Qaintass cannot make money on uncertain pax flight scheduling and meagre load numbers before most borders re-open. Not a bad move financially. There are sufficient carriers operating [SIA, EK, Etihad] to service current and short term needs.
 

Chob

Moderator
I always used Nok from Hkt to Bkk.
Until last year .
They upped their airfares till they were close to Thais.
Airasia then became my preferred carrier .... one AA flight I got was half of Noks price !
 

MarcTwoSix

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Chob;441626 said:
I always used Nok from Hkt to Bkk.
Until last year .
They upped their airfares till they were close to Thais.
Airasia then became my preferred carrier .... one AA flight I got was half of Noks price !
I like AirAsia

But those grey stockings the flight attendants wear drive me crazy
So ugly
 

Ian Forbes

New member
I like the cheap Asian airlines where they strap you to the wing to balance the plane. It helps to wear a motorbike helmet because getting wacked by a bug really hurts at those speeds ... and especially when you are bald. Also, wear a jacket. It gets cold at 30,000 feet.
 

kaptainrob

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Chob;441626 said:
I always used Nok from Hkt to Bkk.Until last year .They upped their airfares till they were close to Thais.Airasia then became my preferred carrier .... one AA flight I got was half of Noks price !
Just to clarify, its NOKSCOOT that's gone, not joint owners NOK and Scoot.We used to fly with NOK although Thai AA became more reliable and with better online service. As Chob discovered, often cheaper too. I had to block NOK from a regular bombardment of advertising emails, all in Thai ... very annoying.
 

MarcTwoSix

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kaptainrob;441664 said:
Just to clarify, its NOKSCOOT that's gone, not joint owners NOK and Scoot.We used to fly with NOK although Thai AA became more reliable and with better online service. As Chob discovered, often cheaper too. I had to block NOK from a regular bombardment of advertising emails, all in Thai ... very annoying.
I've never liked Thai Airways
I hate the clothing they use for their seats.....its sort of this rough cloth
The seats also seen so rigid and this may be in my head but their planes seem to be "loose"
Like when you land all parts of the plane shake

I do, however, like the music they play when the plane is being boarded....

Bangkok Airways and Air Asia for me.....
 

kaptainrob

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MarcTwoSix;441669 said:
I've never liked Thai AirwaysI hate the clothing they use for their seats.....its sort of this rough clothThe seats also seen so rigid and this may be in my head but their planes seem to be "loose"Like when you land all parts of the plane shake I do, however, like the music they play when the plane is being boarded....Bangkok Airways and Air Asia for me.....
I agree, Thai Smile isn't too bad domestically but nowhere as convenient as Thai AA. Thai International was my airline of last resort as despite enjoying 777's for safety and ride, legroom was impeded by IFE black boxes and food was inferior to that of AAX. :D
Bangkok Airways are very very good though schedule and price often deters.:(
My favourite airlines in Asia are SIA and AAX. The Thai AAX services to Australia are excellent and IMHO superior to TG in all respects.
 

MarcTwoSix

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kaptainrob;441675 said:
I agree, Thai Smile isn't too bad domestically but nowhere as convenient as Thai AA. Thai International was my airline of last resort as despite enjoying 777's for safety and ride, legroom was impeded by IFE black boxes and food was inferior to that of AAX. :D
Bangkok Airways are very very good though schedule and price often deters.:(
My favourite airlines in Asia are SIA and AAX. The Thai AAX services to Australia are excellent and IMHO superior to TG in all respects.
What is Thai AA?
I've seen you say that but don't know what it is
 

Bawdy

Active member
International flights with passengers to be diverted from Melbourne Airport for 2 weeks as genomic analysis of the recent virus spike indicates overseas origins and contamination thru hotel quarantine.

Another kick in the guts for Dnata workers as most of the flights I see with pax are on Qatar, Emirates or Etihad, all handled by Dnata and probably the only thing keeping them going as they are unable to get Jobkeeper support for their workers as they are 100% owned by a foreign government.
 

kaptainrob

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Sam Chui has noted Covid19 effects on air travel:-

  • Airlines are retiring their 4 engine, less fuel efficient, wide body aircraft, such as the B747 and A380.
  • There are less or almost no First Class seats available.
  • Airplanes are cleaner, more so now than they have ever been.
  • We are seeing drastic changes in how the in-flight service is conducted. Hot meals and trays are being replaced by sealed and pre-packaged cold snack boxes.
  • Flying is for essential journeys, not for fun anymore.
 

kaptainrob

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Thai Airways International Flights To Remain Grounded For The Entire Month Of August
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Bankrupt carrier Thai Airways has just published more bad news, namely that their fleet will remain grounded and not operate any international flight until at least September 1, 2020.

Thai Airways has their international fleet grounded since late March with some domestic flights having resumed service while the carrier formally entered into bankruptcy protection last month.

With the exception of a very few repatriation flights and some “special” flights carrying a certain someone to Switzerland there have been no Thai Airways planes at international airports since spring.

In late April I wrote about rumors that Thai Airways could remain grounded until October which was publicly denied by TG at the time. They had originally planned to resume international flights by July 1 but that has been pushed to August 1 and now another month into September.

In the meanwhile Thai Airways has informed customers they are not in the position to refund any money paid for tickets at the moment. I’m sure many customers who had booked TG flight to leave Thailand in June and August will now be affected by this as well.

You can access this latest announcement by Thai Airways on their UK website.

Due to the ongoing COVID-19 outbreak, and the continuous immigration restrictions and governmental measures imposed by several countries, THAI has been forced to extended the temporary suspension of its international operations until the end of August 2020.
We appreciate the continuous disruption and inconvenience this may cause to passengers and truly apologise for this.
We understand that passengers may have questions about changes to bookings. We are trying our best to respond to all queries, but all our teams are extremely busy at present which has greatly affected our response time. Please follow this link for our latest service update.
If your flight has been cancelled, we are currently in the process of advising you or your travel agent (if you booked through a third party) accordingly. Please ensure you check the status of your flight(s) through the “My Booking” section of our website. …
The Thailand based website of Thai Airways ironically has no detailed information about this.

Thai Airways plans the following connections beginning September 1st, however I’d take that with a grain of salt at this point.

Planned operation for September/October 2020 as of 08JUL200 as follows. Various travel restrictions continue to impact the carrier’s planned service resumption and operation.

Bangkok – Auckland eff 02SEP20 3 weekly 787-9
Bangkok – Beijing Capital eff 02SEP20 2 weekly 777-300ER
Bangkok – Brisbane eff 02SEP20 3 weekly 777-200ER
Bangkok – Brussels eff 01SEP20 3 weekly A350-900XWB
Bangkok – Copenhagen eff 01SEP20 1 daily 777-300ER (5 of 7 weekly for most fare classes)
Bangkok – Delhi eff 01SEP20 1 daily 777-300
Bangkok – Denpasar eff 01SEP20 3 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Dhaka eff 01SEP20 5 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Frankfurt eff 01SEP20 1 daily A380
Bangkok – Guangzhou eff 03SEP20 2 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Hanoi eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Ho Chi Minh City eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Hong Kong eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Islamabad eff 02SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Jakarta eff 02SEP20 3 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Karachi eff 02SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Kuala Lumpur eff 02SEP20 5 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Lahore eff 01SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – London Heathrow eff 01SEP20 1 daily 777-300ER
Bangkok – Manila eff 02SEP20 4 weekly 777-300
Bangkok – Melbourne eff 02SEP20 5 weekly A350-900XWB
Bangkok – Munich eff 02SEP20 5 weekly 777-300ER
Bangkok – Nagoya eff 03SEP20 3 weekly A350-900XWB
Bangkok – Osaka Kansai eff 02SEP20 3 weekly 777-200ER
Bangkok – Paris CDG eff 01SEP20 3 weekly 777-300ER
Bangkok – Perth eff 02SEP20 3 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Phnom Penh eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Seoul Incheon eff 01SEP20 6 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Shanghai Pu Dong eff 02SEP20 2 weekly 777-300ER
Bangkok – Singapore eff 02SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Sydney eff 01SEP20 5 weekly 777-300ER
Bangkok – Taipei Taoyuan eff 01SEP20 1 daily 777-200ER
Bangkok – Tokyo Haneda eff 02SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Tokyo Narita eff 01SEP20 4 weekly A330-300
Bangkok – Vientiane eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Yangon eff 01SEP20 1 daily A330-300
Bangkok – Zurich eff 01SEP20 4 weekly 777-300ER
This doesn’t look like a lot but now that TG has already pushed back their operations several times I’d not buy a ticket from them under any circumstances.

Who knows when (if) you’ll ever see your money again?

I’ve talked to some people working for Thai Airways and within the company they are again talking about no flights before October.

Conclusion

Thai Airways really is a hot mess these days. Of course their operations are contingent upon Thailand’s border policy and considering that there is currently no plan in place to re-open the country after the travel bubble concept has been canned a second time it makes very little sense for TG to schedule any flights right now.

There are plenty of commercial flights leaving Thailand on a daily/weekly basis which make it possible for essential travel and flow of goods to function. If Thai Airways were to start flying under these circumstances most of the flights would go almost empty and the airline is already bankrupt.
 
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