Cabinet approves long-term tourist visas

[RakThai]

^^^ WTF?

That Mr. Tim of the Thaigur is a farang living in Phuket for many years..
And his business of reporting news isn't affected at all..

But everyone and everything around him is..
I think it's admirable that he sticks out his neck to defend his (Thai) neighbors and friends to try to speak up..!

 

[MarcTwoSix]

^^^ WTF?

That Mr. Tim of the Thaigur is a farang living in Phuket for many years..
And his business of reporting news isn't affected at all..

But everyone and everything around him is..
I think it's admirable that he sticks out his neck to defend his (Thai) neighbors and friends to try to speak up..!

My comments were more based overall, not this particular video.
And more comments on Joe Schmoe disparaging Thailand and calling Thais stupid for not wanting tourists.
It's downright bizarre the anger these people have towards a country that isn't theirs...........

But you were just projecting doom with the cold weather approaching, yet now advocating for the country to open up to those people.
All while cases spike up around the globe

Look at any poll/survey. The majority of Thais don't want the country opened yet.
Doubly so Thais outside the tourist industry.

 

[anmeno]

My comments were more based overall, not this particular video.
And more comments on Joe Schmoe disparaging Thailand and calling Thais stupid for not wanting tourists.
It's downright bizarre the anger these people have towards a country that isn't theirs...........

But you were just projecting doom with the cold weather approaching, yet now advocating for the country to open up to those people.
All while cases spike up around the globe

Look at any poll/survey. The majority of Thais don't want the country opened yet.
Doubly so Thais outside the tourist industry.

When you see the numbers in Myanmar I can understand why Thais are sceptic to open up the country.

 

[kaptainrob]

The idea of a 'postponement' simply heightens the ineptitude to many potential visitors KR.
Why oh why keep mooting yet another 'plan' each day when nobody wants to take responsibility for the risks associated with ANY plan ( some Covid cases ) in the end ?
They should just shut up and continue to sit on their hands .
Critics have also pointed out that a 'postponement' is not a cancellation , so appears to mean , " Refund ?? Cannot..." to those of Guangzou who have taken up the deal thru Thai agents ...

Im very much with Paulie on the whole thing.
Demanding Thailand open up when yours is not , or when you as a citizen arent even afforded the freedom to leave yours , as is the case in Aus , pangs of media colonialism at least. Western bullying at its worse...

I totally agree. The whole scheme was fraught with problems and logistical obstacles from the start.

I just get pissed off all the sensationalist reports of cancellation, money lost, etc when the Government has stated it's a postponement.

I also agree the whole situation has been handled abysmally with various agencies misreporting the state of play.

I understand there are many 100's of expats in Europe who wish to take advantage of the STV to get back home to Thailand, to reunite with partners or to resume work. Many of those do not have work permits or marriage certificates. Some have same sex partners and large homes here and have been stranded o/s for up to 6 months.

 

[MarcTwoSix]

I totally agree. The whole scheme was fraught with problems and logistical obstacles from the start.

I just get pissed off all the sensationalist reports of cancellation, money lost, etc when the Government has stated it's a postponement.

I also agree the whole situation has been handled abysmally with various agencies misreporting the state of play.

I understand there are many 100's of expats in Europe who wish to take advantage of the STV to get back home to Thailand, to reunite with partners or to resume work. Many of those do not have work permits or marriage certificates. Some have same sex partners and large homes here and have been stranded o/s for up to 6 months.

Although I hope anyone that is away from loved ones gets back to the.

It is also a good wakeup call that people shouldn't be living on such temporary visa/status

Myself included......

 

[kaptainrob]

Although I hope anyone that is away from loved ones gets back to the.

It is also a good wakeup call that people shouldn't be living on such temporary visa/status

Myself included......

It's a conundrum which needs certain action or a great deal of planning to overcome as Covid is an entirely new hurdle for expats and frequent travelers alike.

One fellow BM stranded abroad is fortunate to have a house in both locations but is not legally married to his lady therefore unable to return under existing rules. He may choose to marry upon return to Thailand, or gain residency for her so that she can return to his home country at any time. The latter is already in progress and a more likely option.

Another non-BM American, also with homes in both countries is a same-sex partner now separated and unable to return as yet.

Yet another American who is married [to a TG], managed to get on a repat flight from the US. [The TG flight was very hush hush due to a ban on TG flying into the US but spotted by enthusiast's landing at military airfields].

Many expat couples with massive homes here were stranded (as tourists) in other countries, China, Australia and NZ for example, and have incurred hefty accommodation costs whilst their Thai mansions are sitting empty and (some) poorly maintained. This group is among those who would take up the STV option.

Meanwhile, Thai authorities have arrested and quarantined a number of illegal immigrants who managed to get in via land borders, mainly Chinese.

 

[MarcTwoSix]

It's a conundrum which needs certain action or a great deal of planning to overcome as Covid is an entirely new hurdle for expats and frequent travelers alike.

One fellow BM stranded abroad is fortunate to have a house in both locations but is not legally married to his lady therefore unable to return under existing rules. He may choose to marry upon return to Thailand, or gain residency for her so that she can return to his home country at any time. The latter is already in progress and a more likely option.

Another non-BM American, also with homes in both countries is a same-sex partner now separated and unable to return as yet.

Yet another American who is married [to a TG], managed to get on a repat flight from the US. [The TG flight was very hush hush due to a ban on TG flying into the US but spotted by enthusiast's landing at military airfields].

Many expat couples with massive homes here were stranded (as tourists) in other countries, China, Australia and NZ for example, and have incurred hefty accommodation costs whilst their Thai mansions are sitting empty and (some) poorly maintained. This group is among those who would take up the STV option.

Meanwhile, Thai authorities have arrested and quarantined a number of illegal immigrants who managed to get in via land borders, mainly Chinese.

My WP expired May 25th this year

The process is my firm needs to get my job approved and show a Canadian can't do my job.
It is usually an easy approval because my job is so account specific
If I leave the accounts leave

But they were extra strict this time
It took way longer than the previous ones to get approved
And they only gave me 2 years because of Covid and unemployment in Canada

 

[RakThai]

My comments were more based overall, not this particular video.
And more comments on Joe Schmoe disparaging Thailand and calling Thais stupid for not wanting tourists.
It's downright bizarre the anger these people have towards a country that isn't theirs...........

But you were just projecting doom with the cold weather approaching, yet now advocating for the country to open up to those people.
All while cases spike up around the globe

Look at any poll/survey. The majority of Thais don't want the country opened yet.
Doubly so Thais outside the tourist industry.

Absolutely not advocating opening up the country!

But yes, I can see how desperate people who live of tourism get..

 

[MarcTwoSix]

Absolutely not advocating opening up the country!

But yes, I can see how desperate people who live of tourism get..

I never worry about Thais
They always manage

I am always bucking against people saying Thais have a better family structure than in the west, or are closer to their family than in the west
I still don't agree with that.

But one aspect of family in Thailand that is much different than in the West is they don't suffer from too much pride as a lot of people in the West do
In the West, most wouldn't even tell thier family they were broke until they could literally not survive
Whereas in Thailand they don't have an issue saying they don't have money so someone has to help them

So hopefully for most families they won't all be unemployed and that will see them through

I've always said, I'd rather be poor in Thais than poor in Boston

 

[sidvicious]

When the pandemic started a lot a farangs left Thailand because they would rather be in the west anticipating that the west would better cope than the Thais. Surprise surprise that those are the ones wanting to get back now seeing what is happening in the west.
Som nam na.

 

[MarcTwoSix]

When the pandemic started a lot a farangs left Thailand because they would rather be in the west anticipating that the west would better cope than the Thais. Surprise surprise that those are the ones wanting to get back now seeing what is happening in the west.
Som nam na.

I don't think it is a som nam nah case for a lot
I think if you were living in Thailand for a long time, most know the hospitals are capable
I think for most it was a cost issue
They may have had insurance or access to it back home and not in Thailand

 

[sidvicious]

I don't think it is a som nam nah case for a lot
I think if you were living in Thailand for a long time, most know the hospitals are capable
I think for most it was a cost issue
They may have had insurance or access to it back home and not in Thailand

But this was unprecedented. No one knew how things would turn out. Lots of guys that were working in LOS returned home not knowing what to expect and rather choosing the west with 'superior knowledge'.
I wouldnt have left if it was me working over there for sure. Its a chance many were willing to take....so? Now some are stuck in the west because they cannot leave their countries. Entirely their own fault. You make your own choices.

 

[MarcTwoSix]

But this was unprecedented. No one knew how things would turn out. Lots of guys that were working in LOS returned home not knowing what to expect and rather choosing the west with 'superior knowledge'.
I wouldnt have left if it was me working over there for sure. Its a chance many were willing to take....so? Now some are stuck in the west because they cannot leave their countries. Entirely their own fault. You make your own choices.

But you didn't reply to what I said
I think in a lot of cases, it would have been more a $$$ issue than thinking back home had "superior knowledge"

If they got back home and got on their govt insurance plan rather than risk getting stuck in Thailand with Covid and paying out of pocket

My sister was in the hospital for 45 days or so
With all sorts of care
Can you imagine what that bill would be, even in Thailand?

 

[sidvicious]

But you didn't reply to what I said
I think in a lot of cases, it would have been more a $$$ issue than thinking back home had "superior knowledge"

If they got back home and got on their govt insurance plan rather than risk getting stuck in Thailand with Covid and paying out of pocket

My sister was in the hospital for 45 days or so
With all sorts of care
Can you imagine what that bill would be, even in Thailand?

I personally know a few guys stuck in the west at the moment. For them it was never about insurance cover as they dont have cover in the west any way. They left for the reasons I stated thats why I mention those reasons. They had cover in Thailand and was only required after the pandemic started to get some sort of cover for covid.

 

[MarcTwoSix]

I personally know a few guys stuck in the west at the moment. For them it was never about insurance cover as they dont have cover in the west any way. They left for the reasons I stated thats why I mention those reasons. They had
cover in Thailand and was only required after the pandemic started to get some sort of cover for covid.

Ok good enough
I think this will have a lot of people changing their living situations and get on more solid footing.
As I said, myself included

Although my travel and wives hasn't been that restricted to where we need to go

 

[Stillearly]

Ok good enough
I think this will have a lot of people changing their living situations and get on more solid footing.
As I said, myself included

Although my travel and wives hasn't been that restricted to where we need to go

how many do you have ... ?

 

[MarcTwoSix]

how many do you have ... ?

Damn
That slipped
You caught me 555

 

[Nomad]

Damn
That slipped
You caught me 555

Why won't you answer the question. We need answers!!! 555 (hopefully not that many)

 

[MarcTwoSix]

Why won't you answer the question. We need answers!!! 555 (hopefully not that many)

I don't want to overshadow Obes's Pelosi investigation.....

So I will wait for him to give us that list of Nancy being crazy

 

[kaptainrob]

I don't know how many expats may have gone 'home' for security of mind as the pandemic unfolded although I tend to agree with Paul. Those with long term visa's and family here wouldn't necessarily have left. The younger expats that I know of, stranded offshore, were mainly unmarried though in a relationship, some with children. Many worked in FIFO jobs [or had done before oil collapsed] and did not have long term visa's. A large number of these guys had returned 'home' to take up alternative work and planned 30/60/90 day rotations or something like that.