Dental Treatment in Thailand.

Faz

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First, let me state that of the 60 years spent in the UK, I only ever needed 1 tooth extracted. Tried cracking an almond nut at Xmas and the nut came off best.
That resulted in a bridge being fitted. I chipped both front teeth jumping out of a tree as a kid, and hitting my chin on my knee, which later resulted in two crowns.
3/4 fillings and that's about it.

Thailand.
I've always attended regular 6 month check-ups at private dental clinics in Thailand.
First time I had a problem with a back tooth, I visited 3 different dentists (no x-ray facilities) before being advised to visit the dental department at the local hospital.
After inspection and an x-ray they ascertained the pulp was inflamed and a root canal treatment required.
Multiple dentists at the hospital facilities and long queues.
So the young female dentist starts drilling, and drilling, and drilling, then abruptly stops and sends me for a further x-ray.
She drilled so deep she'd actually cracked and split the 3 roots of the tooth. Extraction now the only alternative.

Over the course of time, I became suspicious of the qualifications of the dentists. Often, other than the regular check up if they suspected other treatment was required, they'd refer you to an alternative dentist. The other issue is that just when you think you've found a dentist you feel confident with, 6 months later the clinic has closed or moved to a different location.

Some time later, I start to have a problem with another back tooth, experiencing a slight discomfort and mild pain when biting down on the tooth.
3 different clinic visits, no x-ray, and they all pass it off as nothing found.
Cleaning my teeth one morning, I pull back my mouth to examine the tooth, and it's discoloured and turning black!
4th different clinic where I'm advised to again visit the hospital dental department.

At the hospital after an x-ray, I'm informed the tooth is infected and dying > extraction.
Now, I'm not one of those that's squeamish about visiting the dentists.
Although that initial injection may make the eyes water or the feeling of a runny nose, after that I just chill out and let the dentist do his thing.
My regular UK dentist used to comment he wished all his patients were as placid and laid back as I was.
So the female dentist at the hospital informs me she's not qualified to extract this particular dying/dead tooth, and I'll have to wait to see the specialist dental surgeon.
I'm initially given 4 injections, but as soon as the dentist starts to wiggle and pull on the tooth, I go into meltdown mode as the pain is excruciating. A further 4 injections, and she tries again, and again I hit the roof screaming like I've never done before.
Another 4 injections and another attempt, which again has me screaming out in agony. She tells me it's loose now, so I tell her just to pull the fooker fast.
As the tooth is finally extracted, I sigh in relief, followed by a foul stench in the air and a very nasty taste in the mouth.
Underneath the tooth was a massive abscess that burst during extraction and the cause of the tooth dying, which was never previous discovered.

Onto round 3, much more recent the end of June, and one of the front tooth crowns that have sat perfectly for the last 40 years, falls off and is swallowed whilst eating.
The dentist advises I look for it, and he can then refit it, but as a temporary measure he cleans up the remaining original tooth stump and fits a temporary crown.
The following day I'm hit with a severe case of diarrhoea, so no, I make no attempt to search for the crown, electing to pay for a new one.
The dentist was going on holiday, so an appointment had been made for 15th July.
Two days after the temporary crown was fitted, the underlying tooth stub snapped off at the base of the gum. I suspect his grinding cleaning of the tooth stub had thinned the tooth that it now had no strength to support a crown.
I wait until 15th July and on inspection he informs me the remains of the broken front tooth needs to be extracted and an implant and new crown fitted ........... however he's not qualified to carry out any of the procedures.
I visited two other dentist clinics and again informed they are not qualified to carry out the procedures.
Although you inform the receptionist of the exact issue, they'll happily make an appointment, inspect, then inform you they are not qualified, but still charge you 2000 BHT for the inspection.
I now have a 3rd appointment at another clinic later today, where the reception assures me the dentist is fully qualified to do extractions, fit implants and crowns.
Quotes are circa 35K THB for an implant and crown. I'm dubious, as the appointment is just to inspect and evaluate, not actually do anything.

I wish I knew, years ago, what I now know today.
When these budding 'dentist' acquire a diploma after finishing University, they often obtain employment within hospital dental practices, but also open private clinics, or even share clinics with other dentists, to continue their training. They are barely qualified to carry out inspections, clean and polish or do basic fillings after leaving Uni.
It takes a further 10 years to qualify to carry out all dentistry procedures.

My advice, if you need any dentistry work in Thailand, is to be very specific when making an appointment what the issue is and ask beforehand if the dentist is qualified to carry out these procedures. Refuse to pay anything if they have simply wasted your time and only inspect and give advice.
Unless the dentist is circa 35 years of age, then the chances are they are limited in both knowledge and experience to carry out all dentistry procedures.
 

kaptainrob

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I can empathise with all you said.

Fortunately I don't need many teeth for 🍺as I've given up on dentists 😎

In CM their on every corner now, almost as many as 7-11
 

bacwaan

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I had a great dentist on Samui when I lived there...she did her doctorate as the same University in Sydney (UNSW) where I did my MBA...

She is totally professional, has all the equipment required including X-Ray and Scan facilities and specialises in implants....

As a local she did appointments for me at 900 baht...which included the filling/extraction or cleaning etc I had booked for....she also did 2 crowns for a friend at about half the price it would cost back in the UK....

I am considering using her to do my 4 front teeth implants once I am cleared by my ENT/ONC to have them done as I hate the "plate" I am using at present...she has quoted me a price at about 60% cheaper than what I can have it done here in AUS...
 
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OZZYGUY

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My wife had a great experience in Chiang mai, had a ton of work done over several trips.

In Australia they quoted her 32k AUD, she took the x-rays done in Australia and they pointed out a fair bit the Australian dentist missed.

Job cost around 12k at the end of the work including all the stuff the Australian company missed.
 

Faz

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I am considering using her to do my 4 front teeth implants once I am cleared by my ENT/ONC to have them done as I hate the "plate" I am using at present...she has quoted me a price at about 60% cheaper than what I can have it done here in AUS...
I considered a plate, quoted between 3-4K THB.
Quoted circa 35K THB for an implant and new crown (£800).
Costs £2,500 - £3,000 in the UK now.

You've convinced me to go for the implant now.
The problem is they have to remove what's left of the front tooth first, and that'snapped at the gum line.
I suspect they'll have to cut the gum to extract it.
 

Faz

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My wife had a great experience in Chiang mai, had a ton of work done over several trips.
I found a great dentist here in Roi Et, problem being when you arrived for your next 6-month check up, the dental practice has now relocated elsewhere and nobody seems to know where. They open, close and move for fun here.
 

Rockitt

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I saw a large dental practice in Thonglor Bangkok. It looked very modern and professional from the outside. I didn’t check it out but I took a snap of their services and prices.IMG_5520.png
 

Faz

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I saw a large dental practice in Thonglor Bangkok. It looked very modern and professional from the outside. I didn’t check it out but I took a snap of their services and prices.View attachment 16261
That's a private dental hospital, and very expensive.
Prices in Bangkok are on par with private in the UK.
 

Moo Uaon

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I am considering using her to do my 4 front teeth implants once I am cleared by my ENT/ONC to have them done as I hate the "plate" I am using at present...she has quoted me a price at about 60% cheaper than what I can have it done here in AUS...
I got an implant here in Brissy 3-4 years ago @ 2600 bucks.
First visit they drilled a hole in my jaw and put a threaded pole in it and told me to come back in 3 months after giving the bone time to grow back again and around it.
Next visit they put a new pole in it and made and fitted the crown to it


Sooooo....I don't think you can get the whole thing done properly in the one visit?
 
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Faz

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Update:
Quotes are circa 35K THB for an implant and crown. I'm dubious, as the appointment is just to inspect and evaluate, not actually do anything.
I originally had an appointment for Monday 28th July, but the dentist practice cancelled that and rebooked for 1600 today.
At 1400, they phoned and changed the time to 1800. These changes don't instil any confidence in me that they are efficient and organised.
The wife I had words about the fact I wasn't impressed with the service.

On arrival, I find, although the clinic has other practicing dentists, the only fully qualified dentist is only available for a few hours, two days a week.
The dentists inspect my mouth, then starts on this tirade of mumbo jumbo about how the tooth is infected and requires extraction before any implant can commence. Wow, the tooth stub broke because the previous dentist in cleaning it ground it too thin to support a new crown, hence it broke, not because it was infected. Then he starts going through the procedures, which I'm already fully aware of, before he starts rambling about bone grafts!
Sorry, why would I need a bone graft?

When the wife originally booked the appointment, the receptionist informed her there was a promotion offer for implants at 27.999 all in.
So I asked him for a ballpark figure of the total costs.
Extraction 3,000 BHT
For the second visit as Moo Uaon posted 10,000 BHT
First visit they drilled a hole in my jaw and put a threaded pole in it and told me to come back in 3 months after giving the bone time to grow back again and around it.
Then the bone graft 10,000 BHT.
Third visit to fit the crown, 35,000 BHT.
58K in total.

When I inquired about the promotional offer, which was still advertised outside on a board hording of 27,999 BHT, he informed me that offer finished on 31st July. Yeah, but I had an appointment on 28th July and the clinic cancelled it.
It's 4th August today, he replied, the point going totally over his head.
Nah, you're taking the piss, mate, and I walked out.

The good news is that driving back, we passed another dental practice, so I told the wife I'd pop in for a second opinion.
Blow me down with a feather, it was my regular dentist I always used before she abruptly moved.
800 BHT for the extraction.
45,000 BHT for the complete implant and crown procedure.
When I quizzed her about a bone graft, she appeared puzzled and said the bone doesn't need grafting, it grows around the post itself to secure it.

I've got a lot of further expenses to cover this year, so after talking to the wife, I've decided to hang fire on the implant and just see how I go with the temporary removable plate for the remainder of this year. Cost 3,500. She took the mould today and I go back for fitting next Wednesday.
 

MarcTwoSix

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I think so many of them are scams

My wife got braces and they left them on forever
I kept telling her that they shouldn't be on that long.

And they were complete assholes about sending on her records to her dentist in Vancouver
Which is a complete dereliction of Healthcare.....

The dentist in Vancouver said that because they kept her braces on for so long, it actually weakened her teeth


By the way
I think most of the dentists in Vancouver are scams also

Most are 2nd generation Indians and always pushing unnecessary practices on you


I found and Irish lass
Dr Laura
She is amazing


And I just lost my front crown a few days ago
And they are closed for the week!
So I'm toothless for 10 days 555
 

MarcTwoSix

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My wife went to my dentist for the 1st time for a new patient exam

My dentist is awesome and she doesn't push treatments

She told my wife she needs 2 deep cleanings

My wife just got a cleaning in Thailand in May

The dentist said it doesn't seem they are really doing a deep/proper cleaning
 

Quarky

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,,,floss.

My dentist told me off.. said I wouldn't need a deep clean every 6 months if I was brushing and flossing after every time I ate... so I am testing the advice now...
 

BigHewer

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I’ve been to the dentist in Germany, Australia, Japan and Thailand. No prizes for guessing the worst of the four 555

PS - I have 26 teeth left @kaptainrob, not a bad effort.
 
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Faz

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Never heard of "deep cleaning".
In the UK we usually refer to it as a 'scale and polish' to remove any built up plaque and tartar that brushing doesn't remove.
Normally takes just a few minutes, except Thailand, where it's completed in 60 seconds.
 
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