October Thai trip- Ubon ratchanani and Bangkok

OzzyDamo

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Had 21 days in Los, 2 to 23 oct. Great ticket price with Air Asia X Thailand 2adults and 1 3yo. for 1380 return BNE to BNK don mueang - domestic flights also with AA 3000bht/person bnk to UR.

Flights were good, good thai pilots, little tight the seating, no movies just sit it out and get or home- food was ordinary but did the job enough.

Primary reason was to see family in Ubon, my son has 4 cousins there and has none in Australia. Secondary reason was dentistry work for both my wife and me, I got 3 crowns done all big back teeth for 9000bht each one which is 1/4 of the price of what I got quoted here in oz, 100% 3m zirconium crowns- advise from the wifes sister in law who is a health admin in Ubon- http://https://www.facebook.com/sittiporndentalclinic/ which did a great job 4.5 hrs of grinding and gluing over 3 x 1.5hr visits- right face ache having 6 needles each visit, but all good now a few weeks after - good work by the dentist, have a holiday and my teeth done for the same money(and cap manufacturer 3m) as going to the dentist in Brisso.

Stay at De Bua Villa in Ubon which is cheap, clean and safe- is central to most things, but they have a peak hour traffic in Ubon so is best to plan your trip times considering these factors- https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g656472-d3308490-Reviews-Debua_Villa-Ubon_Ratchathani_Ubon_Ratchathani_Province.html

We checked out the Water fall here- https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x3113f6d0d65e4475%3A0x2a6d061f3c03d948!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMic-pBZd9nIg2FEeLK4YzkgODYQH4MroqjvGqr%3Dw473-h355-k-no!5sHuai%20Luang%20Waterfall%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipMic-pBZd9nIg2FEeLK4YzkgODYQH4MroqjvGqr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig76yS7srlAhVD8HMBHU3OA10QoioI6QEwGQ
Is a good walk down and back but the swim is crisp and clean, but the water was burning my eyes, didn't seem to bother the swarms of hampala barb fish in the water(look kinda like a maseer), which peck you as you swim. Kid had a great time, playing with all the thai kiddies there.

Checkout the zoo at ubon, had lions, tigers 2 types, leopards, gibbons, lots of birds(hornbills), snakes, porkipines, civets and even red roo's from oz. Not something I like but was something to show the kids.

Thai kids in general are alot less aggressive then in brisbane/australia, have less shit and are more sharing then here, socially richer for sure.

Negatives- baht 20.36 to the AUD is quite different in better times I have got 31.08bht to the AUD.
The same old problem with roads, sewer and services. sewer and storm water is in the same pipe, unsealed and largely untreated, and they pump it into the river they draw water from. Electrical wiring and the bullshit with cable/adsl confetti strung from the telegraph poles is shameful.
State of the tap water is probably the biggest one.
Hygiene with meat in general, lots of place serve meat up that is not well refrigerated, the markets in town sell out of buckets, primarily pork and chicken- makes going to the high end restaurants a wise move.

Beef is tough, lean and needs to be cooked Bleu to be palatable, is great in a panaeng curry cut fine and quick cooked- loved it like that.

restaurants ubon-
for lunch the prime place is called, gai yang here is the best in the city, is size 1 jungle cock and all their other food is great the owner is a soldiers wife, hes a nice bloke they just had a daughter was 18 days old- beautiful little thing - Som tam tawbaw 162/1 Nakhonban Rd, Nai Mueang, Mueang Ubon Ratchathani District, Ubon Ratchathani https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/%E0%B8%AA%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B3+%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%9A./@15.2390338,104.8605307,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x31168633029c8409:0x9589fa83f0e5ddf7!8m2!3d15.2390321!4d104.8612692

Dinner lots of markets about for cheap feeds, but again to be sure you don't get crook this one stood out both in value and in quality- Bua wi shean https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%A3/@15.2351901,104.8697623,3a,75y,295.34h,91.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbWUXtLD-sZ47stzYYIfR9g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DbWUXtLD-sZ47stzYYIfR9g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D211%26h%3D120%26yaw%3D262.79926%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x311687b571d3ef35:0x2a9c44c4c82a5a96!8m2!3d15.2352133!4d104.8697443

Breakfast for me soup and noodles, a simple pork stock with some veges and egg noodle is the best bang for buck and is the local staple diet- sam chai gah fair http://https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9F+%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%82+%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%87/@15.2816787,104.8358514,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x311662a9c2e618b5:0x7258e4b1fb89eb2a!8m2!3d15.2816735!4d104.8380401


Tried lots of joints out, but they were the best- my boy doesn't like spicy food so we did have a few feeds at sapori italian restuarant - the pizza are better then what I can buy in brisbane and the price is reflecting that(all italian import stuff). Chef owner is from napoli the base is inbetween fried and a nan bread, cheese is awesome(made me miss italy) is quality food, has air con in the kitchen makes for happier staff- http://https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g656472-d16779680-Reviews-Sapori_Italian_Restaurant-Ubon_Ratchathani_Ubon_Ratchathani_Province.html
I only did pizzas there, though the menu is much broader.

Being aussie, I don't go to thailand and buy aussie or nz beef after its been hit with a 100%tarrif- first thing I ate when I got home was a angus sirloin, grassfed.

will follow up with photos later is people are interested.

madam zab in bangkok near don mueang was good for pad thai moo-https://www.facebook.com/pg/Madam-Zab-860292370703949/about/

thailands main fed is a gai yang with som tam- is the national dish, what thailand does better then australia is tropical asian vege and jungle cock chicken(long leg, omnivorous chickens non-industrial production), thailands alluvial soils are much richer and more naturally productive then australia's - wish I could get both of those things at once without it costing a shitload.

fresh vege and fruit in thai markets leaves australia wanting terribly, everything seems to be picked on the day every day......and the range is astounding.

IBB.
 

bacwaan

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^ nice report..thanks for taking the time to post and make comparisons..always good to hear about upcountry travels and family visits
 

MarcTwoSix

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I liked your bullet point TR!


Laid out nice

Regarding dental
I have pretty good dental coverage so pricing comes to about the same

But even w/o I am such a wuss I wouldn't want to do dental work anywhere but home so I can go home and be a baby in my own bed and sofa 5555
 

Ian Forbes

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Thanks for the mini-report. I agree totally with what bacwaan wrote. Thanks for posting the "internet connection highlights" . It was good to see the Huai Luang falls pictures with water coming down. When I visited that area briefly it was dry season and the falls just had a trickle coming down. Dentistry is definitely cheaper in Thailand, and usually of high quality.
 

OzzyDamo

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I should add that the weather was great, it only rained a couple of times for a brief period in the afternoon, but it is humid and hot even at night. The other thing is 13th of oct. is the anniversary of the death of King Bhumibol Adulyadej, fireworks are for sale a few days up to this and are legally allowed to be used on the 13th. So I bought 2000bht worth- the Roman V, 2" are the best value, I made a set of mortar tubes out of some pvc pipe and pallet box to safely let them off, which we did at Huai Muang Park- directing them so their flight path was over the water.
My family in Ubon are doing pretty good for themselves, they lend us a car for the time we are there and offer accommodation- which I don't use because I don't want to be in their face 24/7.
I would prefer to stay at a self contained unit or cabin/donger with cooking gear, then I could play with the local produce myself - living off restaurant and market menu's is pretty unhealthy most things swim in sugar even the somtam, the best stuff is the fruit and vege, so being able to prepare vege dishes would be a great bonus.
 

Ian Forbes

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That is what I enjoy about the smaller city-village life... lots of markets catering to the locals rather than tourists. It is one of the main reasons why I bought my own motorbike in Thailand... so I could explore at my own leisure.
 

OzzyDamo

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Ian Forbes;419422 said:
That is what I enjoy about the smaller city-village life... lots of markets catering to the locals rather than tourists. It is one of the main reasons why I bought my own motorbike in Thailand... so I could explore at my own leisure.
I think the trail bike is great idea, but I would go for a 2 stroke over 4 stroke as it's less maintenance and lighter, that TPI 300KTM is the go(103KGS)- do a trade in I bet you'd be impressed. Even the 150cc would impress you and lighter again. https://transmoto.com.au/tpi-injected-2ts-faqs-answered/
I would love to stick that motor in a sprint kart, be trick'

if budget was an issue I would go this route- https://global.yamaha-motor.com/business/omdo/products/dt/

Waiting to see the arrival of 2stroke diesel bikes and boat engines- mercury has a 175 happening now.
 

Bacon

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OzzyDamo;419424 said:
I think the trail bike is great idea, but I would go for a 2 stroke over 4 stroke as it's less maintenance and lighter, that TPI 300KTM is the go(103KGS)- do a trade in I bet you'd be impressed. Even the 150cc would impress you and lighter again. https://transmoto.com.au/tpi-injected-2ts-faqs-answered/
I would love to stick that motor in a sprint kart, be trick'

if budget was an issue I would go this route- https://global.yamaha-motor.com/business/omdo/products/dt/

Waiting to see the arrival of 2stroke diesel bikes and boat engines- mercury has a 175 happening now.
You rate the Honda XR 150L? It is a 4 stroke, but not much heavier than the TPI 300KTM.
 

OzzyDamo

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Bacon;419425 said:
You rate the Honda XR 150L? It is a 4 stroke, but not much heavier than the TPI 300KTM.
the maintenance is still greater then a dry sump, air cooled 2 stroke, the shocks and forks won't be anything near the required 100kg white euro male- it will bottom out hard core over 50km/hr on bumps.

So it needs revised suspension on purchase, even for an 80kg rider- none of the small bikes are euro/western man rated - a aussie postie bike has heavier shocks, springs and forks, which is part of the reason I don't ride in Los'

Ask Ian I bet his kwakka is lightly sprung for him.
 

Bacon

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^ I have noticed they're mainly popular in Asia, especially the Philippines.

I know you can't beat the KTMs though. I always thought they were German, only just found out they're Austrian made. They seem to be a popular choice among European riders who take on big challenges like Himalayan trips and such, as I keep seeing them in the vids.

Not too comfortable for long journeys though? One guy ended up stopping at some mountain village and bought a piece of sheep skin and had the locals stitch it to the seat for him 55.
 

OZZYGUY

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I found the Kawa KLX 150 and better bike than the Honda XR 150.

I was looking at buying these a few years back in Cebu, wanted the 250 but I couldn't touch the ground. ....55
 

OzzyDamo

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Bacon;419432 said:
^ I have noticed they're mainly popular in Asia, especially the Philippines.

I know you can't beat the KTMs though. I always thought they were German, only just found out they're Austrian made. They seem to be a popular choice among European riders who take on big challenges like Himalayan trips and such, as I keep seeing them in the vids.

Not too comfortable for long journeys though? One guy ended up stopping at some mountain village and bought a piece of sheep skin and had the locals stitch it to the seat for him 55.
they are cheep and nastee.

every non-race bike needs a sheepskin seat cover. Single piston bikes are uncomfortable on longer journeys. the old xt/xr500's make your arse sore.

Husaberg, Husqvana and gas gas are all good, euro enduro racing is very popular they lead in the techs of that type of bikes.

Checkout this 4stroke with a expansion chamber on the zorst' 63hp out of a 450 sohc engine! 100kg!!! https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/au/supermoto/fs-450/
you could tweek that 450 up to 70hp with FMF mega bomb header and can, with custom mapping. amazing power to weight ratio.

parts are pricey but its in the game also- https://swmmotorcycles.com.au/rs-300-r/
 
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