"Tourist" Visa crackdown ??

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Dazza

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Last time I flew into Swampy I got grilled by the immigration officer as to what I was doing in Thailand, am I married, what work do I do, how long am I staying,etc,etc.
This is the first time I have been pulled up longer than usual, normally they take my photo,stamp and on my way.
I have been coming into Thailand for the past 5/6 years on the Visa Exemption (Bilateral Agreement) but it appears they are now cracking down (well, starting to enforce) the ruling around tourist visas. Prior to this I had a Work Permit, so no dramas before.

Work colleague just flew into work yesterday (he lives in Phuket) and he sent me this email:

I’ve been doing the 4 on 4 offas of July 2 last year. So last week was my 6th Visit in a year.
There was already some sort of flag on my passport as the dude processing just bought me to another dude todeal with me.
I tried to explain about the jobthing but he struggled with it. He asked me if I was married and I told him nobut my girlfriend had already passed immigration and was getting bags. Heallowed me to get her and she was then able to communicate.
After a normal (extremely long)Thai conversation she informed me that he was going to just lock me upovernight and return me due to it being too hard to communicate, but she wasable to sort it out to get me into Thailand that time. The flag on the passportwas not put on by him and he has no power to remove it so he said that I haveto have a pre-arranged visa if I want to return to Thailand in the future.


So....looks like I'll try to "get" back in the country in 2 weeks and get off me a$$ and get a 1 Year Non Immigrant O Visa then obtain a Marriage Visa when that has almost expired.



 
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Dazza

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Hmm....font went all crazy after I pasted his email in the post .....
 

Mr. Smiley

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I think you mean visa on arrival not tourist visa. If that's the case, the visa on arrival scrutiny is nothing new... it's been policy to flagged people that come in on too many visa on arrivals since August of last year, iirc. Too many back to backs and they request that you go to an embassy and get a proper visa in your passport.
 

do ron

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Yes dazza I have mates working offshore that say the same - lately they are being questioned , one has even left Thailand because of it
Interestingly the blokes I know that work offshore have British passports and they say that they work with Indians and some other nationalities that never get stopped? ^&^&^&^
 
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Dazza

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Mr. Smiley;231610 said:
I think you mean visa on arrival not tourist visa. If that's the case, the visa on arrival scrutiny is nothing new... it's been policy to flagged people that come in on too many visa on arrivals since August of last year, iirc. Too many back to backs and they request that you go to an embassy and get a proper visa in your passport.
Yeah, that's it, my bad wording, I meant using the visa on arrival is supposed to be for tourist purposes only.
 
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Dazza

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do ron;231612 said:
Yes dazza I have mates working offshore that say the same - lately they are being questioned , one has even left Thailand because of it
Interestingly the blokes I know that work offshore have British passports and they say that they work with Indians and some other nationalities that never get stopped? ^&^&^&^
wow...leaving Thailand just because of that is a bit extreme, must of been other circumstances that made him leave as well. Lots of guys I know stay in the Phillipines as they are quite welcoming to expats I've been told, not as many hoops to jump through.
 
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NeedHoliday

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Dazza;231617 said:
Yeah, that's it, my bad wording, I meant using the visa on arrival is supposed to be for tourist purposes only.
To confuse things it's not a visa on arrival either, that's actually a separate section at arrivals for visitors from countries where you don't have an existing visa and don't qualify for exemption.

Your mate will be getting a visa exemption stamp (like what you said you get) - no visas involved at all. And yes they frown on back to back exemptions but I'm surprised a month on/off is triggering anything odd. Sounds like previous history of something else was flagged, as I've only heard them flagging a passport entry when it has been a back-to-back at border crossings and such. If your exemption stamps don't behave like a tourist would they will get suspicious and ask more questions than usual, but threatening to lock someone up overnight seems like a typical attempt at a pay off. They should either admit you, or refuse you.

If you're worried, just go to a nearby embassy and get a single or double entry tourist visa (an actual visa) - that'll grant you 60 days stay each entry with an option to extend in-country for a further 30 days each time (making 6 months in total).
 

Moo Uaon

Well-known member
Vientiane is easy for a TV....double or triple.
a multiple entry O (after a TV) would be the best bet based on marriage?

it's amazing how many regulars here think a 30 day stamp is a visa.
 

bacwaan

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Dazza;231619 said:
....Lots of guys I know stay in the Phillipines as they are quite welcoming to expats I've been told, not as many hoops to jump through.
PI has exactly the same system for tourists...30 days on arrival without application for 151 countries including AUS + USA ...any longer and an application is required...ie 59 days (or even longer stay types)

perhaps they don't enforce the back to back arrivals the same way as Thailand...I've always been happy to get back to LoS after a few weeks
 
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Dazza

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Just gonna pop over to Laos and get me a multiple non O, looking at getting a passport for the bike and make a trip of it :)
 
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Dazza

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Work colleague mentioned he was looking at Thailand Elite...I told him he was crazy !!!!! hopefully he'll see the "membership" fees and wake up to himself....lol
 

Moo Uaon

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Dazza;231730 said:
Just gonna pop over to Laos and get me a multiple non O, looking at getting a passport for the bike and make a trip of it :)
ride to Luang Prabang via Vang Vieng?

we had a ride to LP from Nan via Hongsa pencilled in but didn't make it this ride season.
it's dry in LOS but some big rains in many parts of Laos.
 
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NeedHoliday

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Dazza;231730 said:
Just gonna pop over to Laos and get me a multiple non O, looking at getting a passport for the bike and make a trip of it :)
Non-O based on marriage? Lucky you :) (or maybe not 555)

Thailand Elite isn't so bad for those under 50 or not married/working etc - the PE version is 500k for 5 years, so essentially 100k/year for no hassle, no immigration extensions, multiple entry, and a few other minor perks. To some the cost will be fine, others probably not, but for those who stay on Non-ED to remain in country the costs are probably half that per year, so may not be much of a stretch - but it does mean the entire amount up-front.
 
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Dazza

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Managed to talk my way back into LOS, grilled at immigration and was told this is the last time we allow you to come, you must get a visa.
Looks like trip to Vientiane in a couple of weeks, but the bike part is now off the cards, the missus is getting a bit big to be flying around on the back of me bike.
 

Mr. Smiley

Active member
I'd recommend going to Savannaket over Vientiane... not as busy and also less stringent on paperwork.... just came back from there last Monday to get a Non-Imm B visa.
 

Moo Uaon

Well-known member
^ yeah,supposedly better for getting multi entry O visas too.

not sure what type dazza will be getting?
 

Mr. Smiley

Active member
Easy too, just go to the little photocopy shack by the embassy and pay 50 baht to have the people there fill out the (application) forms for you. Also can take photos too if you forget (though not sure how much they charge for that). Was in and out in 30 mins. Back the next day to pick up the visa at 1:30 pm (embassy opens at 2 pm for visa pick-ups) cued up and out not even 5 mins after they open the gate.
 

Cippy

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I had this happen at the Tha Li friendship bridge not too long ago after I had done three crossings in a row and attempted a fourth. Tha li is a very remote bridge, Luang Prabang is the closest city about 400km away. The guy told me to go back over the boarder and find my way, without a vehicle to the city and get a visa. There is NOTHING on the other side of that bridge. I kept saying "Mai die, mai die, mii luuk, dek lek, mii Thai mia, do, do! (I Can't, I have a wife and baby, look!)

He finally called the wife over and they spoke for about 1/2 hour. He then flagged my passport and told me never again.

Probably for the best. Having a Luuk Krung (Thai/farang) kid's let me extend a tourist visa by sixty days and then another thirty.

Thanks Prayuth!

Not a bad deal
 
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Dazza

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Mr. Smiley;234161 said:
I'd recommend going to Savannaket over Vientiane... not as busy and also less stringent on paperwork.... just came back from there last Monday to get a Non-Imm B visa.
What an excellent suggestion :) haven't been to Savannaket for a couple of years !! hmm....put the paperwork in for Visa...little flutter at the casino...win...win...lol

cheers :)
 
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