In hopes of a fall reopening, I am looking at flights and (Thai) dreaming. Thai airways are back with some cheap flights, but would you fly with them again considering they could fall on their ass at any time, and while there are still thousands of customers waiting for a refund?
Would you fly Thai Airways again?
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RakThai
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If a plane is broke, would you fly in it?
So if an airline is broke, why would that be different?
Bacon
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I hope AA go belly up, and Virgin too.
I have no issues flying Thai, but if the chance of cancellation is high then it just depends on the individual's risk tolerance.
Bacon
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Yep, same here. Roomy, comfy and great service. Love the girls. When I step into a Thai Airways plane in Perth I already feel like I'm in Thailand.
kaptainrob
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Thai have only 4 refitted 747's in the current fleet which may see long haul (Europe) scheduling again in the future. It's also possible they could be sold ahead of other out-dated models currently in storage and definitely for sale. The biggest impediment to TG's rehab process is the off-loading of the old and unwanted models in their grounded fleet.
As to flying Thai, up 2 you. Despite their excellent safety record and 1st class (home-based) maintenance division, I am not keen on flying with them again for several reasons. The potential for cancellation/loss of paid fare is high, as is poor service thru cut backs and lack of staff morale. TG may lose it's best staff, pilots and cabin crew included, to other carriers as WW air transport increases demand.
Singapore Airlines will be my preferred carrier to/from Australia. Thai AirAsia, well funded, will continue to be a favourite and if ever AirAsiaX resumes long haul I would book with them. For Europe, I'd choose Turkish Airlines for superb service or a ME carrier; Qatar, Etihad or Emirates.
As to flying Thai, up 2 you. Despite their excellent safety record and 1st class (home-based) maintenance division, I am not keen on flying with them again for several reasons. The potential for cancellation/loss of paid fare is high, as is poor service thru cut backs and lack of staff morale. TG may lose it's best staff, pilots and cabin crew included, to other carriers as WW air transport increases demand.
Singapore Airlines will be my preferred carrier to/from Australia. Thai AirAsia, well funded, will continue to be a favourite and if ever AirAsiaX resumes long haul I would book with them. For Europe, I'd choose Turkish Airlines for superb service or a ME carrier; Qatar, Etihad or Emirates.
MarcTwoSix
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I guess that is on their International flights?
Because I don't find their domestic planes that nice
Always seem old, and have that weird fabric on their seats
MarcTwoSix
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Vancouver to Asia has the choice of pretty much every Asian Airline, with the top 4 or 5 being very good
Cathay
China Airways
EVA
Japan Airlines
ANA
Korean Airlines
Those 6 are top notch
MarcTwoSix
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When I fell asleep before take off on ANA and woke up when the hostess was leaning over me and mistook her white apron for a pillow and put my hands on her boobs and she just giggled , I already felt like I was in Japan 5555
Not sure how much trouble Cathay Pacific is in now, but I really like to fly with them to the West.
As for Air Asia, they are doing all sorts of other things now including delivery food like GRAB Food in Thailand etc. The owner is a crook anyway, doesn't pay airport fees to the airport management, but charge it to the customers, and also charge credit cards fees until they were "caught" by central bank and no refund on those fees also. I wish they close down also, but then lots of jobs will be lost. They do employ lots of staff. Oo yea my company once sold PPE to them (Year 2019), on agreement 30 days term, but it took them over 90 days to pay (keep calling them but give excuses, and once even "online transfer to wrong account number", as If the account number on invoice is not clear enough), after that I refuse to supply them for next order. Good luck to the current supplier.
MarcTwoSix
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Korean Airline seemed to flying ICN-BOS 3x week
But this was Ao's flight 2 weeks ago
So don't know the rationale in them doing so
But this was Ao's flight 2 weeks ago
So don't know the rationale in them doing so
kaptainrob
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Perhaps they just love carrying beautiful Thai ladies .... 55
The main reason for continuing many loss-making routes is to hold on to 'slots'. A 'slot' being the depart/arrive time which is allocated (sold to) an airline by the Airport. Those 'slots' are extremely important to scheduling and seldom relinquished other than by non-use which effectively puts them back on the market.
MarcTwoSix
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Yeah but I don't think airports would even have the leverage to take away slots, yet
kaptainrob
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Have you seen the wait lists of airlines for slots at Int'l hubs? Now is a prime time to grab a slot for many carriers who are otherwise denied access.
MarcTwoSix
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I still question that
You think ICN is going to kick out their national carrier out of a slot?
For who?
Bacon
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The cargo hold is full to the brim. That's where the money is coming from. I've had to air freight multiple pallets from China the last couple of months. At the cost of 5-10K per pallet, cause shipping lanes are fucked. From delays to container shortages, you name it. I can only imagine what the traffic to US/CAN would be like.
And depending on routes, there's usually a dead body or two on board heading back to relatives, which is like 2 first class passengers each. These are covid times too, so business could be good. Beats dealing with drunk feckers on board for pennies and dimes. She would have almost certainly flew with coffins... I'd leave you to have fun explaining that one. I'd personally keep it to myself 555. Knowing Thai women and ghosts, she would likely never fly back home again 55. Thats just speculation on my part though, as I'm not sure if infected bodies are allowed to be transported. Probably not.
I can see a lot of airlines restructuring after this. Not too much of a mission either. Just rip the seats out and use hooks and nets. Maybe weld down dividers for extra safety. Quick and dirty transport setup. Once they're in thin atmosphere, these things burn fuck all fuel. Probably ends up all the same cost wise, but the net would be through the roof. Or just do "bring out yer dead" and specialise in Covid casualty transport around the planet if possible. I'd be milking the shit out of that! There would be a lot of easy insurance money there to rake in if doable.
MarcTwoSix
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Yes I forgot about cargo
But! This is still covid restrictions as well
So may not be as full as you think
We weren't allowed to bring Quincy to the US due to Covid